Why NOT to vote Republican

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Originally Posted by ToomuchStuff

In my case, she tried to abort my grandfather twice (the old home remedy methods, before there were safe alternatives). Wouldn't it have been better to prevent, then to deal with the after of them trying to kill the kid after birth?

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We as a culture approve of death. We have the death penalty and kill in both defense and in war. There is no inherent value to life.

Too much stuff, anyone that has ever worked with severely abused children can tell you that they would have been better off aborted during the early stages. It’s heartbreaking and cruel what our society does to children yet alone the woman that will die during pregnancy or childbirth or trying to abort an unwanted child. Unfortunately the men are still controlling women.

I'll never get the typically male reverence for "life" when it comes to a tic-tac sized blood clot growing in someone else's body. IT IS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS, BOYS!

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Originally Posted by JaneV2.0

I'll never get the typically male reverence for "life" when it comes to a tic-tac sized blood clot growing in someone else's body. IT IS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS, BOYS!

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See, that's part of the problem. I think the vast majority of we boys (and girls too based upon the ones I know) aren't much concerned about tic-tac sized blood clots, at least not until they become babies. It seems to me that it shouldn't be very difficult to agree that at some point in-between that baby deserves protection from harm.

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Originally Posted by Alan

See, that's part of the problem. I think the vast majority of we boys (and girls too based upon the ones I know) aren't much concerned about tic-tac sized blood clots, at least not until they become babies. It seems to me that it shouldn't be very difficult to agree that at some point in-between that baby deserves protection from harm.

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That's the rub, apparently. I lean toward viability, and the vast majority of abortions are done way before that point.

It completely baffles me how we in this country are so concerned about saving fetuses but will do nothing about the safety of existing children, ie gun violence. And...on abortion, I think if there was a contraceptive that men had to have injected (since apparently pills don't work on males), this whole dynamic would change. It continues to be the burden of the woman whether she keeps or aborts a fetus.

Ding, ding, ding we have a winner.

Desantis is going after Disney, a company that brings big bucks and jobs to the state 365 days of the year. Not only in the parks, but numerous offsite hotels, restaurants, tourist attractions and so on.

Signed a six week abortion ban, when women (especially rape and incest young girls) might not know they are pregnant.

is flying around the country promoting his book, instead of being in the state governing when Fort Lauderdale got hit with several feet of rain and extensive flooding.

has teachers, administrators and superintendents leaving due to his anti-woke rhetoric and takeover of universities and schools. They can’t count on not being sued or fired. Or stalked.

and lastly, gun owners can conceal carry without a permit, except where lawmakers meet.

hooray, let’s force more women into poverty, create more children that will be unloved and unwanted. But they make good target practice for mass shooters. And in the meantime dumb down our schoolchildren.

Desantis now has some beef with bud lite. It’s hard to keep up with his anti
“woke” agenda.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tea...ens-sports.amp

here is the craziest thing. Who is the man most woke? Jesus. He fed the poor, accepted prostitutes, preached love even if you disagreed with your fellow humans.

Real Christians should ask themselves “what would Jesus do?”

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Originally Posted by flowerseverywhere

Ding, ding, ding we have a winner.

Desantis is going after Disney, a company that brings big bucks and jobs to the state 365 days of the year. Not only in the parks, but numerous offsite hotels, restaurants, tourist attractions and so on.

Signed a six week abortion ban, when women (especially rape and incest young girls) might not know they are pregnant.

is flying around the country promoting his book, instead of being in the state governing when Fort Lauderdale got hit with several feet of rain and extensive flooding.

has teachers, administrators and superintendents leaving due to his anti-woke rhetoric and takeover of universities and schools. They can’t count on not being sued or fired. Or stalked.

and lastly, gun owners can conceal carry without a permit, except where lawmakers meet.

hooray, let’s force more women into poverty, create more children that will be unloved and unwanted. But they make good target practice for mass shooters. And in the meantime dumb down our schoolchildren.

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Sadly, people actually will continue to vote for him. It is unconscionable!

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Originally Posted by flowerseverywhere

Desantis now has some beef with bud lite. It’s hard to keep up with his anti
“woke” agenda.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tea...ens-sports.amp

here is the craziest thing. Who is the man most woke? Jesus. He fed the poor, accepted prostitutes, preached love even if you disagreed with your fellow humans.

Real Christians should ask themselves “what would Jesus do?”

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So it’s Christlike us versus Hitlerian them? That sort of thinking has produced some tragicomical results over the years.

Flowers, I totally agree with you and Desantis has turned into a disaster.

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Originally Posted by LDAHL

So it’s Christlike us versus Hitlerian them? That sort of thinking has produced some tragicomical results over the years.

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I am an atheist. DeSantis is combatting the war on morals and Christianity. It seems like anything but to my knowledge. Do you think any one group has the right to impose their supposed religious bent into the political arena? Do you think a war on Christianity is a real thing that needs to be combatted by politicians?

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Originally Posted by flowerseverywhere

I am an atheist. DeSantis is combatting the war on morals and Christianity. It seems like anything but to my knowledge. Do you think any one group has the right to impose their supposed religious bent into the political arena? Do you think a war on Christianity is a real thing that needs to be combatted by politicians?

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You don’t need to be religious to have messianic pretensions. I think what we are seeing, and what DeSantis is (however crudely) combating is a sort of neopuritanism, with it’s own clerisy of HR bureaucrats, DEI apparatchiks and media choristers to spread the faith and punish heretics.

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Originally Posted by LDAHL

You don’t need to be religious to have messianic pretensions. I think what we are seeing, and what DeSantis is (however crudely) combating is a sort of neopuritanism, with it’s own clerisy of HR bureaucrats, DEI apparatchiks and media choristers to spread the faith and punish heretics.

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Several terms I won't bother to look up, but I would say that there is a significant overlap with the religious right and male dominated white supremacy, although not ubiquitous. And that overlap extends disproportionately into the politics of certain conservative politics where it has no place.

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Originally Posted by Rogar

Several terms I won't bother to look up, but I would say that there is a significant overlap with the religious right and male dominated white supremacy, although not ubiquitous. And that overlap extends disproportionately into the politics of certain conservative politics where it has no place.

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There has never been a time in our history where religion has had less influence than it does now. I think the same applies to “male dominated white supremacy”.

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There has never been a time in our history where religion has had less influence than it does now. I think the same applies to “male dominated white supremacy”.

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lol. that's why there is SO MUCH PUSHBACK from those who espouse the theory that men and whiteness and Christianity are "under attack", is it not? People see that their (un-earned, unjust) dominance may be coming to an end, and they are scared shitless and lashing out. I think many are perfectly willing to take the ship to the bottom, just so that they don't have to see what a more just, fair, equality-driven future may look like, with them NOT in charge.

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Originally Posted by LDAHL

There has never been a time in our history where religion has had less influence than it does now. I think the same applies to “male dominated white supremacy”.

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I don't know that a historical perspective makes it any less problematic, if it has value at all. There was obviously a time not too long ago when women in professional occupations were discouraged or frowned upon and certain race origins were not allowed in certain prestigious universities. And if you go back a couple more decades you get into the popular eugenics movement. Hopefully we are letting go of our sullied past.

This is not then. Or as one might say, statistically independent.

More DeSantis shenanigans

https://www.npr.org/2023/04/18/11706...ersight-powers

let’s make the state spend money to target rides at Disney by having outside inspectors. But exempt the other parks. The system seems to be working for years and years before Mr Woke starting picking his fight with them. It will only cost Floridians more and for what?

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Originally Posted by LDAHL

So it’s Christlike us versus Hitlerian them? That sort of thinking has produced some tragicomical results over the years.

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Indeed. That does seem to be the war that republicans are waging on the rest of us. Lets hope the results aren't as tragic as all the previous times Christians tried to do this to "the others".

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Originally Posted by LDAHL

There has never been a time in our history where religion has had less influence than it does now. I think the same applies to “male dominated white supremacy”.

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You may well be right about that. Perhaps that's why the white christian freakout is currently happening. They know that they are losing.

I posit that many of us have racial memories of suffering at the hands of religious fanatics, and reflexively distrust fundamentalist religionists. Especially when their beliefs seemingly have nothing to do with the teaching of Jesus.

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Originally Posted by LDAHL

You don’t need to be religious to have messianic pretensions. I think what we are seeing, and what DeSantis is (however crudely) combating is a sort of neopuritanism, with it’s own clerisy of HR bureaucrats, DEI apparatchiks and media choristers to spread the faith and punish heretics.

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What the hell are you talking about? A succinct writer you are not!

In today's episode of As The World Turns, we have:

https://i.imgur.com/ueV5fJK.png

https://i.imgur.com/eO3k9dg.png

https://i.imgur.com/DUKuGgG.png

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Originally Posted by JaneV2.0

I posit that many of us have racial memories of suffering at the hands of religious fanatics, and reflexively distrust fundamentalist religionists. Especially when their beliefs seemingly have nothing to do with the teaching of Jesus.

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If I were to tell you that I distrusted the English due to racial memories of the Siege of Drogheda, you would say I was being ridiculous. And you would be right.

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Originally Posted by bae

In today's episode of As The World Turns, we have:

https://i.imgur.com/ueV5fJK.png

https://i.imgur.com/eO3k9dg.png

https://i.imgur.com/DUKuGgG.png

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The system works.

“I read the news today, oh boy”. Lennon/McCartney

Was quite surprised while looking at Penzeys Spices online. This what the owner has to say about republicans!

https://www.penzeys.com/shop/about-republicans/

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Originally Posted by frugal-one

Was quite surprised while looking at Penzeys Spices online. This what the owner has to say about republicans!

https://www.penzeys.com/shop/about-republicans/

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As butthurt as people got that a corporate ‘person’ hired a trans person to represent them in a one minute video I can only imagine the level of butthurt that that will bring out in the snowflakes.

We've been customers of Penzeys for years. Bill has long been very outspoken about his political values. They also have very good herbs and spices.

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Originally Posted by rosarugosa

We've been customers of Penzeys for years. Bill has long been very outspoken about his political values. They also have very good herbs and spices.

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Yes, it’s well known. And that’s fine. He gets to have his opinions. The owner of a company having political opinions is different than Budweiser using an abhorrent social trend to sell its product, a trend abhorrent to its customer base. And then, insulting its customer base by calling them “ fratty” meaning frat boys.


By the way, the VP of Bud Light is now on administrative leave. That means they’ve given her the option of resigning.

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Originally Posted by frugal-one

Was quite surprised while looking at Penzeys Spices online. This what the owner has to say about republicans!

https://www.penzeys.com/shop/about-republicans/

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Holy cow. That is a company taking a stand!

Hey thanks for posting the Penzey info. I see they have a store in Indy - will make a stop there next trip! Always looking for good people selling good stuff we actually need, lol.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...ty-commission/

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Originally Posted by early morning

Hey thanks for posting the Penzey info. I see they have a store in Indy - will make a stop there next trip! Always looking for good people selling good stuff we actually need, lol.

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They have some nice blends too. DH likes the Sandwich Sprinkles because it makes his sandwich taste like an Italian sub. He likes the Pasta Sprinkles for pizza. We also like the Now Curry and the Sweet Curry.

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Originally Posted by bae

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...ty-commission/

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Thank you for sharing this. Frightening how little actual governing on real issues and how much hysteria they are creating.

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Originally Posted by bae

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...ty-commission/

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I always enjoy it when the bold journalists of the WaPo or NYT put on their safari outfits and venture into darkest flyover country to observe the bizarre rituals and customs of the natives. Perhaps advisors from San Francisco or New York could be flown in to teach them the error of their ways. Or even outposts of civilization like Chicago or St Louis.

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Originally Posted by LDAHL

I always enjoy it when the bold journalists of the WaPo or NYT put on their safari outfits and venture into darkest flyover country to observe the bizarre rituals and customs of the natives. Perhaps advisors from San Francisco or New York could be flown in to teach them the error of their ways. Or even outposts of civilization like Chicago or St Louis.

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Personally I appreciate it too when reporters go report on the shitshow of maga governance in these various places. Sending advisors seems unnecessary though. It’s probably a better, and more realistic, plan to let the insanity burn itself out over the coming years until the non-maga republicans can finally retake the party.

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Originally Posted by jp1

Personally I appreciate it too when reporters go report on the shitshow of maga governance in these various places. Sending advisors seems unnecessary though. It’s probably a better, and more realistic, plan to let the insanity burn itself out over the coming years until the non-maga republicans can finally retake the party.

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Isn’t it strange that our superior coastal overlords do not visit St. Louis and extoll the virtues of a minority female governing squad? Your in-laws must give you some indication of the shitshow that is taking place here.

The county prosecutor is only somewhat better, if that is where they live. He is a relic of Mike Brown riots.

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Originally Posted by jp1

Personally I appreciate it too when reporters go report on the shitshow of maga governance in these various places. Sending advisors seems unnecessary though. It’s probably a better, and more realistic, plan to let the insanity burn itself out over the coming years until the non-maga republicans can finally retake the party.

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In Chicago, we saw insanity literally burn itself out. The outgoing mayor chastised someone for referring to the violence as “mayhem”. It was offensive to the poor dears doing the burning and killing.

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Originally Posted by LDAHL

In Chicago, we saw insanity literally burn itself out. The outgoing mayor chastised someone for referring to the violence as “mayhem”. It was offensive to the poor dears doing the burning and killing.

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That’s ok. In Wisconsin we saw voters re-elect one of the participants in our failed former president’s coup attempt. Remarkably some of those voters proudly proclaimed their support of that traitor. Maybe that idiocy will soon burn itself out but I won’t hold my breath. The traitors still seem firmly in control of the Republican Party.

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Originally Posted by jp1

That’s ok. In Wisconsin we saw voters re-elect one of the participants in our failed former president’s coup attempt. Remarkably some of those voters proudly proclaimed their support of that traitor. Maybe that idiocy will soon burn itself out but I won’t hold my breath. The traitors still seem firmly in control of the Republican Party.

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Sadly.