Trumps: White Angry Middleclass

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I also reject the term feeble old codger. He is keeping up with a grueling campaign schedule, and he is connecting with millions of "young whippersnappers."

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what are you gonna believe the stereotype or your own lying eyes as I walked down the street with Bernie and he's healthy. Now even if one is fit etc. one could develop health problems at that age, IT IS AGE afterall and it comes with potential problems. In an ideal world, I wish we had younger good people running since it would be better if they were younger and thus likely healthier, but such are not the choices we have (and neither Hillary nor Trump is young and none too healthy looking either).

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razz, your characterization of him as unprincipled is exactly the opposite of how I see it, but I guess it depends on if your principles are based on what you want to see in the world vs making sure your party wins--or specifically, Clinton, but...

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he's as principled as any that run on a duopoly ticket, which may not be as principled as one would like but ... you'd need to vote 3rd party for that. Not having a super PAC versus having one, yea that's principled.

Which of the candidates could give Putin a challenge on the judo mats?

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Originally Posted by catherine

I also reject the term feeble old codger. He is keeping up with a grueling campaign schedule, and he is connecting with millions of "young whippersnappers." razz, your characterization of him as unprincipled is exactly the opposite of how I see it, but I guess it depends on if your principles are based on what you want to see in the world vs making sure your party wins--or specifically, Clinton, but...

All kinds of polls show that a Sanders/Trump campaign would be a win for the Democrats, but right now, a Clinton/Trump campaign is very much on the fence, so you could say that he is principled on both counts (ideals + keeping his party in office). The independents who like Trump are the same ones who would have to decide between Trump and Sanders in a general election

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I like to think a Caligula/Trump campaign would result in a Trump loss, but this awful year is teaching me to make no such pleasant assumptions.

I'm sure Mr. Sanders is a fine figure of a man. What are codgerly and feeble are his ideas. Dusty old Marxist notions that reached their peak of influence in the thirties, and were resuscitated in the sixties. Intoning the same ideas over and over like Cato the Elder insisting everybody can go to college for free if we only siphon a little gas from millionaires' yachts.

I don't think he cares any more for the electoral fortunes of the Democrats than he does for the Whigs.

I knew that I should have stopped at the comment about old codger.

I only felt that giving the opposition strong negative sound bytes is unprincipled. It won't help Sanders even if he wins the DEM nomination and can only help Trump. The unprincipled part IMHO is not knowing where to draw the line on this which makes me wonder if he knows how to.

In thinking about it further, I am projecting my values and who can say that they are right for any politician.

Says she, withdrawing discreetly from this conversation.

Say you're soory! ;)

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Originally Posted by JaneV2.0

The Philippines??? Have you been there? The weather alone would make that a non-starter for mess
What's wrong with Mexico?

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The Phillipines does not require a great deal of assets to be a legal resident - Mexico requires more if you wish to be there legally. It all boils down to life being short - do I want quality of life or do I want to struggle in the insane hot mess the US has become? By now you'll know my answer. Rob

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Originally Posted by gimmethesimplelife

The Phillipines does not require a great deal of assets to be a legal resident - Mexico requires more if you wish to be there legally. It all boils down to life being short - do I want quality of life or do I want to struggle in the insane hot mess the US has become? By now you'll know my answer. Rob

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You may want to check in with the Social Security Administration as to what benefits you (or your spouse) might ultimately be eligible for as a former US citizen living in the Philippines. Apparently that is governed by treaties that can be quite different on a country-by-country basis. A friend of mine who is a foreign national with a substantial work history in the US is doing some planning, and tells me it can get pretty complicated.

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Originally Posted by gimmethesimplelife

By now you'll know my answer. Rob

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When do you leave?

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Originally Posted by bae

When do you leave?

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Bae....as I've stated numerous times, when my Mom is no longer here. Nothing new there. Rob

You are a dedicated son.