LGBT rights in the USA today...

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Originally Posted by iris lilies

Some wise gay folks are distancing themselves from the “T+” crowd of LGBTQ+ ...

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"T+"?

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Originally Posted by jp1

I agree the ad is unnecessary. It’s not like desantis has been unclear about the hate in his heart. But I suppose that ‘low information’ voters need to be reminded of that whether they agree with the hate or not.

It will be interesting to see how many LGBTQIA voters decide to throw trans folks under the bus out of fear for their own existence.

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Nothing will happen in U.S. political races, but I expect gay folks who are involved in LGBT+ rights groups to be questioning and voting on issues of leadership and platforms within their own organizations. Non-profits that serve these folks and represent these issues will have some hard decisions to make.

Gay women have formed at least one group to combat what they see as erasure of woman’s concerns and leadership due to takeover by trans activists. Kathleen Stock who was cancelled by her University for perceived “trans hate” is one of the leaders.

Personally, I find Kathleen to show calm friendliness and logical reasoning when talking abput gender issue in the U.K. But of course I am just a hater.

The U.K. Is grappling with gender issues at a pointed level, for many reasons having to do with government overreach and them being, well, just a small island.

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Originally Posted by iris lilies

Gay women have formed at least one group to combat what they see as erasure of woman’s concerns and leadership due to takeover by trans activists. Kathleen Stock who was cancelled by her University for perceived “trans hate” is one of the leaders.

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It's one of the oldest tricks in the oppression playbook. Get two (or more) marginalized groups of people to spend their time and effort fighting each other and they won't have the resources to fight their actual oppressors.

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Originally Posted by jp1

It's one of the oldest tricks in the oppression playbook. Get two (or more) marginalized groups of people to spend their time and effort fighting each other and they won't have the resources to fight their actual oppressors.

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This trivializes actual ideological conflicts. But carry-on making everything the fault of wascally Wepublicans.

yawn.

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Originally Posted by iris lilies

This trivializes actual ideological conflicts. But carry-on making everything the fault of wascally Wepublicans.

yawn.

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And not pointing out the greater number of similarities trivializes those.

At this point since the republicans don’t actually have a meaningful policy platform beyond win at any cost the culture war strategy of divide and conquer is pretty much all they’ve got going for them.

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Originally Posted by jp1

And not pointing out the greater number of similarities trivializes those.

At this point since the republicans don’t actually have a meaningful policy platform beyond win at any cost the culture war strategy of divide and conquer is pretty much all they’ve got going for them.

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The Humanist Report notes that Republicans' only party platform is hatred and cruelty, with reference to his recent homophobic campaign ad.

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Originally Posted by jp1

And not pointing out the greater number of similarities trivializes those.

At this point since the republicans don’t actually have a meaningful policy platform beyond win at any cost the culture war strategy of divide and conquer is pretty much all they’ve got going for them.

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In this specific arena they are reflecting a majority of Americans about 1) medicalized treatment for opposite sex ideating youth and 2) natal males on women sports teams. I guess that’s your “HATE? “Seems hyperbolic to me.

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...n-sports-poll/

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Originally Posted by iris lilies

In this specific arena they are reflecting a majority of Americans about 1) medicalized treatment for opposite sex ideating youth and 2) natal males on women sports teams. I guess that’s your “HATE? “Seems hyperbolic to me.

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...n-sports-poll/

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And apparently you are simply incapable of understanding what I was saying. I'm not surprised. You're a boring cis het old lady who hates the trans folks. Talk about yawn...

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Originally Posted by jp1

And apparently you are simply incapable of understanding what I was saying. I'm not surprised. You're a boring cis het old lady who hates the trans folks. Talk about yawn...

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Awww, jp, as a boring old lady, I along with your 8th grade English teacher who presumably taught you rhetoric am disappointed in how quickly you descend to name calling in persuasive discourse.

We both think you can do better.

Also, the demographic populating this space is primarily old, cis, and hetero; not necessarily a bad thing. Shrug.