Cop asked to leave cafe because he made a customer "uncomfortable"

Last year, the city paid out a 3/4 million-dollar settlement to an individual who was shot by a cop, for shooting the kid when he shouldn't have. i.e. pursuing a misdemeanor case. Then recently, we have a police officer shot while pursuing a suspected felon--when Mr Cop SHOULD have shot the guy, first. So, gun or not, training or not, right side of the law or not; when you have guns--- bad judgment can enter into the equation. So, a group of off-duty, un-uniformed officers carrying guns into a restaurant is inappropriate, and it is absurd. The guns cannot be fired, unloaded and in the trunk of a car, and that's where they belonged.

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Originally Posted by Packy

Last year, the city paid out a 3/4 million-dollar settlement to an individual who was shot by a cop, for shooting the kid when he shouldn't have. i.e. pursuing a misdemeanor case. Then recently, we have a police officer shot while pursuing a suspected felon--when Mr Cop SHOULD have shot the guy, first. So, gun or not, training or not, right side of the law or not; when you have guns--- bad judgment can enter into the equation. So, a group of off-duty, un-uniformed officers carrying guns into a restaurant is inappropriate, and it is absurd. The guns cannot be fired, unloaded and in the trunk of a car, and that's where they belonged.

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just yesterday I heard a news report from my city about guns being stolen from cars.


Guns are more popular than cash as targets of theft.

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Originally Posted by Packy

So, a group of off-duty, un-uniformed officers carrying guns into a restaurant is inappropriate, and it is absurd.

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Originally Posted by Packy

So, a group of off-duty, un-uniformed officers carrying guns into a restaurant is inappropriate, and it is absurd. The guns cannot be fired, unloaded and in the trunk of a car, and that's where they belonged.

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Some jurisdictions require their officers to carry 24/7 when off duty.

By extension, I suppose you think that those of us with concealed carry permits shouldn't be carrying anywhere? I just got home from lunch with a couple of friends at a Middle Eastern restaurant. The restaurant doesn't have a "no guns" sign posted, so I carried inside. In fact, the only places I can't carry are work (it stays in my car, out of sight), and places like the post office or doctor's office (because it's run by a hospital) that are off-limits due to either federal or state law. I don't give my money to places displaying a "no guns" sign.

My pistol goes on in the morning just like my clothes and earrings.

Well, like John Lennon said: "Happiness Is A Warm Gun". You know: If Oh-Nooo had been packing, she prolly coulda squeezed off a couple rounds at John's assassin, and taught him a lesson he'd never forget.

Here's a poem for you kids: Guns Are Fun! See that living legend over there? Just one little squeeze of this trigger; I can put that person at my feet; moaning and groaning and pleading with God; This gun gives me pornographic power; If I wish, the President will fall; and the world will look at me in disbelief; all because I own an inexpensive gun. Guns are lovable, guns are fun; Are you lucky enough to own one? ---by John Hinckley, jr. Anyway, I believe that off-duty cops taking guns into a business sets a bad example for the citizenry, some of whom are not very responsible. All there is to it.

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Originally Posted by bae

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Originally Posted by dmc

Wow, now I find out about waiters. Did you whip out your phone for evidence? Who knows what diseases could be passed along. I hope they were caught and fired imediatly, and then prosecuted and sued.

And to to wish death, really. You take an order and bring out food and drinks. How hard is that?

The police have to actually be concerned with being killed on the job from the thugs out there. Sure you can pick out a few out of the thousands out there, but most are good people. Think how much real stress that they have, are they going to go out on a call about some poor waiter who is being attacked by the local thugs and be ambushed.

Hopefully your community can find a way to have the police stay away. I'm sure that would work out best for everyone.

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When the pace is sane it's not a bad job, unless people send food back, the cook makes a mistake, the guest doesn't like their food, you get triple sat within the space of two minutes, someone doesn't like and complains, the manager doesn't like you so you have to bury a mistake and you're not sure you can pull it off.....and this is when the pace is sane. Juggle all of that insanity when it's busy and you will understand why being a waiter is ranked by the federal government as one of the most stressful jobs out there. I can see that you have never waited tables - otherwise you'd never make that remark.

Something else - I take a great deal of pride in the fact that I've never done anything funky with a guest's food. I believe in food and beverage karma - this is a big reason I've never done it though over the years I've had a few people I've thought about doing it to but I just couldn't do it. Beyond food and beverage karma I didn't want to stoop down to their level and two of the three times the economy was doing much better than now and I had money saved - much better that if I had gotten in trouble for nothing that was my fault/nothing that I had control over that I just jump ship as at the time, it was very easy to replace a serving job. I also would not want to live with myself knowing I had done something funky to someone else's food.

But I'm going to be honest here - treat your server horribly and there are those with thick skin that let it slide off them, there are those like me who will milk it if they think they can to get a better schedule, and there are those who will do something funky with your food to retaliate. Treat your wait staff at least neutrally and you won't have to worry about this. And it does happen. I've read online about cops finding spit in their food after driving off from fast food places and busting the person who did it and in this instance, I can say I side with the cop unless they were extremely abusive towards the employee. And I mean really really bad and disrespectful towards the employee. Otherwise I'd side with the cop on this one as it's really lowdown nasty behavior. Rob

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Originally Posted by Yossarian

I wonder what it would be like if some of the people in the restaurant were often trying to kill you.

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I personally would not sign up the job then, nor would I ever want to be a cop, either. Rob

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Originally Posted by gimmethesimplelife

Juggle all of that insanity when it's busy and you will understand why being a waiter is ranked by the federal government as one of the most stressful jobs out there. I can see that you have never waited tables - otherwise you'd never make that remark.

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Ya, I'd never understand anything about stress, as I have a nice relaxing job running into burning buildings.

You have a lot of waiters dropping from cardiac arrest while bringing out the cheese plate do you? Need medical exams every 40 minutes during your shift to make sure the flash on your uniform isn't causing issues?

Odd though, the lists of stressful occupations I usually come across have firefighters, police, enlisted military, air traffic controllers, emergency dispatchers, surgeons, and people like that on the top of the list, and seem to omit waiters.

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