Will Trump behave himself at the G20 summit?

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Originally Posted by LDAHL

I think Rogar had it right. There seems to be a sort of Pavlovian response to the very thought of him in some quarters. It's like Trump is the villain they've been yearning for suddenly made flesh.

I've got no particular love for the guy, but am willing to wait for him to insult some leader or use the wrong fork before I fly into a sputtering rage.

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Hmmm.........I certainly haven't been yearning for this villain. And I think the majority of people in the U.S. were flabergasted when he showed up. Why the hell would anyone want this situation?

Yeah, I'll wait and see what happens. But wouldn't we be stupid to not use our past experience to go into the future with? Sure, I'm willing to overlook/forgive some things if people redeem themselves, but so far, I have no reason to be hopeful. He represents me. I think it's fair that some of us fear that Trump continues to be Trump and continues to represent many of us in ways we find totally objectionable. There's nothing wrong with that. But I'm sure you'll find something wrong with it.

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Originally Posted by LDAHL

Why try to cloak yourself in the glory of dead heroes by appropriating "the Resistance" rather than try to create a new legend from your own efforts?

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Originally Posted by CathyA

Hmmm.........I certainly haven't been yearning for this villain. And I think the majority of people in the U.S. were flabergasted when he showed up. Why the hell would anyone want this situation?

Yeah, I'll wait and see what happens. But wouldn't we be stupid to not use our past experience to go into the future with? Sure, I'm willing to overlook/forgive some things if people redeem themselves, but so far, I have no reason to be hopeful. He represents me. I think it's fair that some of us fear that Trump continues to be Trump and continues to represent many of us in ways we find totally objectionable. There's nothing wrong with that. But I'm sure you'll find something wrong with it.

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I think there's a difference between not being hopeful and announcing your delicious anticipation of all the outrages you expect him to commit.

Recently Trump appears to be having a little trouble just figuring out where he is.

"delicious anticipation"........those are your words. For me, it's more like "fear and embarrassment and disappointment, knowing how he has been up to now". I don't know where you get that those of us who find his behavior unacceptable have giddiness, hoping he will make his usual big mistakes.
He represents all of us.........and we have every right to expect more from him.

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Originally Posted by creaker

Recently Trump appears to be having a little trouble just figuring out where he is.

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I was watching something online about showing various old interviews with Trump about political questions. He sounded much more with it than he is now. I think this job is sooooooo much more than he expected and it's getting really difficult for him to keep up.

I voted for a different candidate (not Sec. Clinton) but I do not understand any glee in watching an American president fail. I wish him only the best and success in keeping our nation safe.

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Originally Posted by LDAHL

I think Rogar had it right. There seems to be a sort of Pavlovian response to the very thought of him in some quarters. It's like Trump is the villain they've been yearning for suddenly made flesh.

I've got no particular love for the guy, but am willing to wait for him to insult some leader or use the wrong fork before I fly into a sputtering rage.

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There have always been plenty of villains; we've really never had to yearn for them. Now we have a churlish authoritarian clod who surrounded himself with villains before deploying the wrecking ball in all directions. He's already insulted Angela Merkel and arm-wrestled Emmanuel Macron (not to mention taunting big swaths of Asia). It will be amusing to see what outlandish gaffes this trip produces.

Bae, it's true our resistance is not nearly as dangerous as others before it--and I hope it won't be. But that doesn't make it any less real. We can resist through the courts, by supporting candidates and causes, with the help of like-minded mayors and governors--as on the West Coast, and by encouraging the investigation of all the shady dealings (money laundering, election fraud) of this administration. And we can continue to make our voices heard in many different ways. I used to think our separation of powers and checks and balances would be enough to protect us from scoundrels and despots, but now I'm not so sure.

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Originally Posted by JaneV2.0

Bae, it's true our resistance is not nearly as dangerous as others before it--and I hope it won't be. But that doesn't make it any less real. We can resist through the courts, by supporting candidates and causes, with the help of like-minded mayors and governors--as on the West Coast, and by encouraging the investigation of all the shady dealings (money laundering, election fraud) of this administration. And we can continue to make our voices heard in many different ways.

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That's "good citizenship", not "The Resistance".

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Originally Posted by bae

That's "good citizenship", not "The Resistance".

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Often it's the same thing.
Edmund Burke said "When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle."