Trump is a salesman - right now for Donald Trump. He always plays to the audience in front of him so it's really hard to say what his actual stand is on anything - except Donald Trump.Quote:
Originally Posted by ApatheticNoMore
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Trump is a salesman - right now for Donald Trump. He always plays to the audience in front of him so it's really hard to say what his actual stand is on anything - except Donald Trump.Quote:
Originally Posted by ApatheticNoMore
He has supported it explicitly in the past, and has spoken approvingly of the Canadian and Scottish systems. Lately, he has become more coy when called on it, vaguely saying "We're gonna take care of everybody".Quote:
Originally Posted by ApatheticNoMore
No worries Williamsmith. I tried to make my prediction sound like it would be gut wrenchingly boring, but you're right: it could actually be much worse.Quote:
Originally Posted by Williamsmith
I read that Trump inherited a ton of $ from his Dad and if he had just let it sit and lived off the interest he would be much richer then he is now. So not a good businessman.
There's an old joke:Quote:
Originally Posted by Teacher Terry
How do you make a billion bucks in real estate?
Start with two billion.
people see what they want to see, I mean it is foolish to think Trump is going to somehow implement single payer based on this:Quote:
He has supported it explicitly in the past, and has spoken approvingly of the Canadian and Scottish systems. Lately, he has become more coy when called on it, vaguely saying "We're gonna take care of everybody"
Trump:it reminds me of people thinking Obama was a lot of things he was not, in those cases where there was plain evidence from his own voting record and his debates that he was not. While it is foolish to believe everything politicians promise, it is even more foolish to think they are somehow going to promote single payer which would upset a vast array of entrenched interests, it is an uphill fight, when they explicitly say they will not.Quote:
As far as single payer, it works in Canada. It works incredibly well in Scotland. It could have worked in a different age, which is the age you're talking about here. What I'd like to see is a private system without the artificial lines around every state.
Wolf Blitzer needed a whistle and a yellow flag last night. Many opportunities to penalize for unsportsmanlike conduct. Clearly Rubio and Cruz got the memo. Mend fences and join resources to attack Trump. Carson had the best seat in the house by far. Kasich took the high road which is to say he brought a knife to a gun fight. He gained some style points and remained dignified throughout.
What was gained? Trump, for all the attacks didn't seem to break a sweat. Rubio and Cruz emptied their ammunition and went full out. They are a desperate pair. While it was all entertaining, will it truly have any effect on Tuesdays voters?
Suppose Rubio and Cruz have an agreement. If Cruz can manage to claim his own state and capture all the delegates, not just a portion......I think Cruz has the green light to make a run and Rubio will bow out. If not, Cruz really has no path and will be forced to bow out for a Rubio run. It's got to be one or the other if Trump is to be blocked.
Last nights debate was a fight for second place. I thought Rubio showed the most passion and preparation, Cruz has worn out his right middle and index finger pounding them on the podium when its a question you might see on the final exam. It's pretty bad when your own state is up for grabs and you claim to be such a great politician. If he does pull Texas out of his rear it will be an entertaining Ides of March.
After all that yelling.....It seems all the Democrats have to do is stand by with their brooms and sweep what is left of the pieces into the sewer.
How did or will this effect the polling numbers?
I don't think polls can keep up with the fast news cycle. They seem to lag in my opinion and only have predictive value when the numbers are overwhelmingly in favor of one candidate. They are certainly not as scientific as say weather forecasting and you know how that goes. But it fills up large time gaps for 24 hour news channels and so they are widely reported and there are many of them. Really great for talk radio too. Just not of any value except to give Trump something to brag about.Quote:
Originally Posted by UltraliteAngler
I think you're right about Cruz/Rubio. Polling at about 35% of GOP primary voters, Trump will not look like such an electoral juggernaut against one main opponent. Since Hillary seems all but inevitable (except in the unlikely event that the Justice department proceeds with some sort of indictment), it seems like Rubio would be in the best position to run against her. Otherwise, I'll be praying for an obstructionist congress.Quote:
Originally Posted by Williamsmith
The WAMC is thrilled to have Governor Chris Christie's timely endorsement and support for Donald Trump. Is this not the best time to be a political cartoonist or what?
This did not really happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Williamsmith
I watched part of the debate last night by accident, the only one I've seen. Wow.
Aujourd'hui, je suis un Québécois...
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Originally Posted by Williamsmith
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Originally Posted by UltraliteAngler
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-us...-idUSKCN0VZ2I7
Yes, yes it did...
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Originally Posted by jp1
SWEEEEEEET! :)
Moi aussiQuote:
I watched part of the debate last night by accident, the only one I've seen. Wow.
Aujourd'hui, je suis un Québécois...
ok my French is not very good ... maybe I'll just flee to Mexico, it's closer, unless they build that wall. I heard last night was really bad, I didn't see it. But yea when you have on stage a bunch of people who should REALLY REALLY REALLY should not be President ... mon Dieu
I thought at first it was a Saturday Night Live skit or something.Quote:
Originally Posted by ApatheticNoMore
I've kept mine up since 5th Grade, turns out its extra bonus points on the form if you want to move to Canuckistan.Quote:
Originally Posted by ApatheticNoMore
c'est merde pour moi then because despite taking it for 7 yrs je rappelle rien
Enough with the French talk. I suppose you all say "garage" too!
"Barn" or "carriage house". The "garage" here is known as "the workshop", let's keep that straight.Quote:
Originally Posted by UltraliteAngler
I say gare-age or car park like the British
is he trying out for VP?Quote:
Originally Posted by Williamsmith
That was reeaaally interesting. I guess no hard feelings on CCs part about DT's totally usurping Christie's "Tell It Like It Is" message.Quote:
Originally Posted by Williamsmith
Yes, I would love to see a good cartoon (or SNL skit) right about now!
Whatever! I call it a car hole. No French sounds in that!Quote:
Originally Posted by bae
Thanks to our kids dumping stuff throughout all their moves, DH doesn't call our garage a car hole, he calls it a s**t hole.Quote:
Originally Posted by UltraliteAngler
:laff:LMBOQuote:
Originally Posted by catherine
Senator Jeff Sessions endorses Trump. One more nail in the Cruz coffin. It's getting harder and harder to see how Cruz can pull off a delegate sweep in Texas. Sessions is someone Cruz has worked closely with. Just more evidence that Cruz doesn't get the respect of his peers. Trump continues his momentum and the WAMC is one more step towards reclaiming their piece of the American Dream.
Good, Cruz ads started on tv here this weekend. Creeps me out. Also Rubio with his only point "I am the one who can beat Hillary".
Dont forget, "Trump is a con artist." I lost a lot of respect for Rubio since the debates. Now all he does is insult Trump. What the establishment cant seem to fathom, is the fact that it is not about Trump. It is about the hatred for the ruling class, the career politicians, the suckers up to the lobbyists. It doesn't matter what inconsistencies they find, or changes of mind, or tax "bombshells". The WAMC is going to vote for Trump simply to drive the Republican Party to ashes. Using such an offensive imbecile to do it is like putting the cherry on top of the sundae. Tuesday could be judgement day. Hillary is shaking in her little Maoist pantsuit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tenngal
Well the WAMC has brought the Republican Party to a fork in the road and neither option seems agreeable. Get behind Trump in his inevitable nomination of their party or continue to disavow him and abandon the brand and strike off into the night with the remnant of the old GOP with which to start a third party. Kind of like the Balltimore Ravens version of the old Cleveland Browns franchise of the NFL. Ironic.
Is there too much pride to swallow or too much crow to eat? There is still a mathematical chance that Cruz or Rubio or Kasich for that matter could make a run. But the same mathematical chance that my lottery ticket is a big winner. So will some sacrifice for the good of the party and coelescence behind one challenger? It is certainly almost too late for that. The time was after the last debate. Or even earlier.
It appears they will settle for a last stand March 15th. The WAMC will gleefully come out and vote savoring a chance to issue the coup de gras to the party head.
It is instructive to watch the Republican Party implode because of its inability to come together for a purposeful cause. Whereas, the Democrats, have seemingly won by simply staying out of their way. Satisfied to let nitwits have the headlines.
What often happens when several people fight over a resource that no one can fully possess......the resource is destroyed and no one gets any of it.
I am mostly pleased with Trump's victories. Though I am disappointed that he lost Texas to that Canadian.Quote:
Originally Posted by Williamsmith
But with that said, I don't think it is too late for a March 15th turnaround for the GOP. But this time I won't make any confident predictions. haha
Don't most of the GOP candidates believe they are God's Gift to us? At least Trump, Cruz, and Carson do. You're right, Williamsmith, the resource that no one can fully possess in this case is power, and they're chasing it like a kitten playing with a flashlight instead of looking at what's best for the party, or the country.Quote:
Originally Posted by Williamsmith
I think the best I can hope for now is that nobody has enough delegates to win outright and we head into a brokered convention. Under the rules, about half the delegates are freed up in the second vote and about 80% by the third vote. I'd prefer Rubio to Cruz, but either polls respectably against Clinton, who I would regard as only a slightly lesser tragedy for the country than Trump.Quote:
Originally Posted by UltraliteAngler
I suppose a coronation march, impeded slightly by the antics of a genial fanatic, would appear to be more orderly.Quote:
Originally Posted by catherine
Would that demoralize the Trumpers?Quote:
Originally Posted by LDAHL
I'd say so. That's my preference at least, maybe because of my Anglo roots, or my interest in Shakespeare.Quote:
Originally Posted by LDAHL
There are certain similarities to Richard III in the Democratic race.Quote:
Originally Posted by catherine
I would think so. Many might stay home, but that would still be a better, more honorable outcome than the alternative.Quote:
Originally Posted by UltraliteAngler
Do you think "the people" would be like this?
"We voted for Trump and now you elitists have removed the man we voted for because you think we are too dumb to pick our own candidates! Screw you!"
Speaking off the record on my own thread:Quote:
Originally Posted by LDAHL
I have been making fun of this whole process but it is really getting scary. I may be witnessing the hostile takeover of the Republican Party by a power hungry New Yorker. And possibly, my only other option might be to vote for another maybe more progressive power hungry New Yorker. Both have no problem with shredding the Constitution to get what they want. A brokered convention is undoubtedly the course of action The establishment has chosen but I fear they are making a huge mistake by not consolidating behind Cruz. He could possibly stop the madness. And I would be willing to overlook his zealous faults.