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No vaccination doesn't prevent covid. It prevents severe outcomes from it. You're months behind on your info.

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Months? How long has Omicron been around? 2 months. Vaccination actually was fairly protective FROM INFECTION before Omicron. Even with Omicron it doesn't provide no protection against infection but there are lots of breakthroughs.

But anyway anyone who was vaccinated before Omicron and took precautions since is not necessarily "all going to get covid" presuming they didn't already have it. I upped precautions because I knew whatever info we had going into the holidays was probably going to be complete garbage, and we'd have to wait for the fog of the holidays to pass before much of anything would be known (re Omicron). Finding antibodies in someone's blood does not mean they EVER had covid, as vaccines produce antibodies as well.

This is the latest from our health dept. With omicron there is a difference between absolute immunity and a secondary protection offered by T cell immunity when it come to vaccines. Something for someone else to look up if interested.

The most recent modeling report from the Colorado School of Public Health estimates that 42% of all Coloradoans have been infected with Omicron and that 78% of residents have Omicron-specific immunity due to either vaccination or recent infection. While infection from natural immunity may not last as long as that from vaccines, it will likely last at least 3 months, providing a bridge to the warmer months of the year when COVID transmission is less of a risk.

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Originally Posted by Rogar

This is the latest from our health dept. With omicron there is a difference between absolute immunity and a secondary protection offered by T cell immunity when it come to vaccines. Something for someone else to look up if interested.

The most recent modeling report from the Colorado School of Public Health estimates that 42% of all Coloradoans have been infected with Omicron and that 78% of residents have Omicron-specific immunity due to either vaccination or recent infection. While infection from natural immunity may not last as long as that from vaccines, it will likely last at least 3 months, providing a bridge to the warmer months of the year when COVID transmission is less of a risk.

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I have seen restrictions coming down in Colorado. It's nice to see a place that can accept good news instead of wallowing in fear forever.

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Originally Posted by Yppej

I have seen restrictions coming down in Colorado. It's nice to see a place that can accept good news instead of wallowing in fear forever.

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My biggest wallow of fear rests with conspiracy theorists spreading disinformation. Maybe that will settle down some now, too.

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Originally Posted by Rogar

My biggest wallow of fear rests with conspiracy theorists spreading disinformation. Maybe that will settle down some now, too.

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There was this weekend an anti-mask/anti-vax parade in my little village, which turned into a protest in which the parade participants went into local businesses and yelled at and insulted employees and customers, disrupted commerce, and violated those establishments' mask rules. They also yelled sick things at small children in the village.

Gonna be hell when they realize what "being trespassed" and no longer allowed inside the two grocery markets and the single pharmacy will to do their lifestyle....

Maybe it's their opening move for a hunger strike, I dunno...

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Originally Posted by Rogar

My biggest wallow of fear rests with conspiracy theorists spreading disinformation.

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I see that a Johns Hopkins study shows that all of the lockdown/no congregating/shelter-in-place efforts that were such a big part of our initial Covid response were statistically irrelevant to the overall Covid fatality count. Do you think that is disinformation spread by conspiracy theorists or if it's found acceptable, does that mean the people saying the same thing last year and the year before were not spreading disinformation afterall?

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Originally Posted by Alan

I see that a Johns Hopkins study shows that all of the lockdown/no congregating/shelter-in-place efforts that were such a big part of our initial Covid response were statistically irrelevant to the overall Covid fatality count. Do you think that is disinformation spread by conspiracy theorists or if it's found acceptable, does that mean the people saying the same thing last year and the year before were not spreading disinformation afterall?

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The best case of science of the day can change what ever current best practice is. I suppose there is a very remote possibility that some day they will prove that vaccines cause long term brain damage and contain Bill Gates chips to trace people. Then all the guys who have been banned or red flagged from social medias can say, I told you so.

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Originally Posted by Rogar

Then all the guys who have been banned or red flagged from social medias can say, I told you so.

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Too bad that probably won't make up for the loss of reputation/job/career or whatever else goes along with being labeled a conspiracy theorist.

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Originally Posted by Alan

Too bad that probably won't make up for the loss of reputation/job/career or whatever else goes along with being labeled a conspiracy theorist.

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I suspect there will be always be new conspiracies for the more enterprising to redeem themselves with. Guys like Rush made a lucrative lifetime living of it. There's probably still opportunities in the Jan. 6 protest, the fake election results, and climate change. Though I think the flat earther movement died with the rocket man.

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Originally Posted by Rogar

Guys like Rush made a lucrative lifetime living of it.

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I guess that was sort of my point. Once someone is labeled, subsequent information, changing attitudes and even death itself won't take away the stigma, especially if the labeling is done because of ideology. Too bad so many covid related claims of disinformation come down to that.