Conavirus......

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Originally Posted by Yppej

If you obsessively test with unreliable tests you can find it. It's the equivalent of if you build it they will come.

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What a foolish and uninformed thing to say, in this context.

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Originally Posted by ApatheticNoMore

this is of course another misinformation from the usual source of misinformation. False positives from self-tests are rare, false negatives not so rare unfortunately.

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I stand by my statement. I know many people with false positives including my dad. One problem is hospitals will retest a negative but not a positive. They cling to those positives because they get higher reimbursement rates from Medicare., and the facts be damned!

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Originally Posted by Yppej

I stand by my statement. I know many people with false positives including my dad. One problem is hospitals will retest a negative but not a positive. They cling to those positives because they get higher reimbursement rates from Medicare., and the facts be damned!

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Please provide a source for your belief that there are significant false positives from the home tests.

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Originally Posted by jp1

Please provide a source for your belief that there are significant false positives from the home tests.

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Does not have to be a self-test. My dad's false positive was done in the hospital.

But on home tests there is this from the American Society for Microbiology:

https://asm.org/Press-Releases/2021/...V-2-When-Using

A JAMA study found 42% of false positives in PCR tests they looked at:
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...%208%2C%202021.

We didn't have any side effects from the booster, other than slightly sore arm for me (same as with a flu shot). We had to wait 15 mins on the Group W Bench to make sure we didn't have a reaction. Here's DH.

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Originally Posted by Yppej

Does not have to be a self-test. My dad's false positive was done in the hospital.

But on home tests there is this from the American Society for Microbiology:

https://asm.org/Press-Releases/2021/...V-2-When-Using

A JAMA study found 42% of false positives in PCR tests they looked at:
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...%208%2C%202021.

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So you got nothing. Thanks. That’s what I figured.

So it looks like the government might approve a vax for children under 5 that's so ineffective it wouldn't normally get approved, just to shut up all the covidians who keep clamoring for it. (Margaret Brennan is one - she's so annoying - every episode of "Face the Nation" she's harping about this. Total helicopter parent.) sCiEnCe. The benefit will be maybe then the mask mandate on toddlers in NYC will go away.

Just learned this morning that a sibling and spouse tested positive. 2nd time for the spouse. Just mild symptoms at this point as it is early on.

Haven't had my second covid booster yet, but had side effects from both the 2nd regular and my 2nd shingles.

I am not a vaccine naysayer but was surprised too that the efficacy of the kids under 5 shot is so low.

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Originally Posted by happystuff

Just learned this morning that a sibling and spouse tested positive. 2nd time for the spouse. Just mild symptoms at this point as it is early on.

Haven't had my second covid booster yet, but had side effects from both the 2nd regular and my 2nd shingles.

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Just learned this week a coworker has the flu. Mild enough so far he still came to work (he works in the warehouse away from other people), but who knows?. One can never be too alarmist. But so far so good, so in true Academy Awards fashion, I want to thank God, vitamin C, hydration, and extra rest that his symptoms are only mild. It could have been so much worse if he had not been protected by .... common sense.