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Yes it seemed false to me to, not like any data I had heard on addiction, that almost everyone who tries to quit an addictive substance fails. But I didn't care enough to research when random made up "facts" are just being thrown out there, as I doubted they ever had any real basis in the first place.
ANM: I don't work much in the summer so had plenty of time to do some research:)) I also enjoyed learning what was really happening in the field now.
A lot of it depends on how a culture defines recovery.
Is trying and trying to overcome considered recovery?
Or is having and keeping your house clutter free for 5+ years considered recovery?
If you relapse are you still recovering?
Is simply having a fire extinguisher and a path to the door considered recovery?
CL You made a huge amount of progress. Good for you!
I commend CL for keepin' at it! Definitely defying the odds! :)
so I decided to look into the stats on hoarding. The DSM-5 now recognizes it as it's own disorder instead of being a part of OCD. Studies have shown that the brain scans of people are different then people without the disorder when having to make decisions about junk mail/newspaper that they own, etc. 50% of hoarders have major depressive disorder and 48% have anxiety or social phobia. Hoarders tend to put feelings on objects such as a doll would get it's feelings hurt if no one bought it, etc. The people that have been most successful have a specific type of cognitive behavioral therapy designed for hoarders. If you just use the regular CBT the results show about 30% recovered. Small studies with the new technique show up to a 70% success rate. UL: different studies use different criteria as I am sure you are aware. No if someone is sober for a month and keeps relapsing l would not call that successful. You can research it if you are interested.
I have researched it. Which is why I know that complete recovery is very, very, very rare for hoarders.Quote:
Originally Posted by Teacher Terry
Actually, people have died from hoarding - the Collyer brothers being perhaps the most famous example.
and thank you for the positive reinforcement.
CL: I care about people and wish you the best. Everyone has issues that they deal with. UL: you are way too negative about many issues. You act as though there is no hope for when people have problems, etc and that is just a bunch of crap. You can choose to see the world that way and it can be your reality but it is not the reality for many others.
Since we've touched on the addiction aspect, I've been wondering if hypnosis would ever be successful for hoarders. I'm remembering that Jason Robards, a long-time alcoholic, finally got sober with hypnosis. I've also heard hypnosis can be helpful for gambling addicts. Apparently it's more successful if you have one behavior that needs to stop, vs. over-eating, i.e., they cannot give you the message to simply stop eating.
An idea for another reality show???;)