Obamacare, or, I might be up a creek w/o a paddle

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Originally Posted by ApatheticNoMore

... The only ones that genuinely annoy me are those who deliberately chose lower paying jobs than they could get and then want to complain about it. ....

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why thanks for voicing my very thought.

Now, don't misunderstand me. I think it is a perfectly fine life choice to NOT chase a corporate career in all versions. Believe it or not, I admire alternative lifestyle choices. But when those players
1) play the victim
2) require a unusual amount of public subsidy for that lifestyle

don't expect me to celebrate it.

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Originally Posted by iris lilies

why thanks for voicing my very thought.

Now, don't misunderstand me. I think it is a perfectly fine life choice to NOT chase a corporate career in all versions. Believe it or not, I admire alternative lifestyle choices. But when those players
1) play the victim
2) require a unusual amount of public subsidy for that lifestyle

don't expect me to celebrate it.

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I can accept what you have posted here, IL. My point is this - with the opportunities for so many folks limited these days due to outsourcing, globalization, automation, etc. and those who still retain good jobs being expected to constantly produce more and more and more - this forces people into either the role of victim or to place work above all else. True, some may find some relief in self employment, but not all are cut out to be their own boss. I guess what I am saying is that while I don't disagree with you, the system seems to me anyway to work in such a way that you are cast into one of these two roles - victim to some degree, though some do escape this, and B. Work and nothing else matters.

I don't expect you to celebrate this as you have said, I sure don't either. Rob

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Originally Posted by gimmethesimplelife

I can accept what you have posted here, IL. My point is this - with the opportunities for so many folks limited these days due to outsourcing, globalization, automation, etc. and those who still retain good jobs being expected to constantly produce more and more and more - this forces people into either the role of victim or to place work above all else. True, some may find some relief in self employment, but not all are cut out to be their own boss. I guess what I am saying is that while I don't disagree with you, the system seems to me anyway to work in such a way that you are cast into one of these two roles - victim to some degree, though some do escape this, and B. Work and nothing else matters.

I don't expect you to celebrate this as you have said, I sure don't either. Rob

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Ok, I accept it! :)

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Originally Posted by iris lilies

You won't get by with that catastrophic policy now, buddy.

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Nope. My wife, who used to practice insurance law, has been unable to untangle what insurance will be available in Washington State, and how we buy it. My county has been invaded by a legion of tax-dollar-paid worker bees who will be explaining this all to us in a series of public meetings and training seminars. I know several of the "facilitators" who were hired for this program, and they have no experience in the field other than whatever minimal training they received before being let loose upon us.

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Originally Posted by try2bfrugal

They would get free health care under Medicaid for states that have this option in place.
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Here is a state by state list of where that stands -

http://kff.org/health-reform/state-i...able-care-act/

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Sadly, in FL it's not just income. My income is aboiut $500 a month but I have aqssets greate than $2,000 so I was turned down for Medicaid. For the foreseeable future I'll continue to not have access to jhealth care.

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Originally Posted by reader99

Sadly, in FL it's not just income. My income is aboiut $500 a month but I have aqssets greate than $2,000 so I was turned down for Medicaid. For the foreseeable future I'll continue to not have access to jhealth care.

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If you moved to a state that did expand Medicaid under the ACA you would qualify. They did away with the asset test. Or if Florida expanded the ACA you could get Medicaid. The Republicans in Florida and 21 other states are blocking Medicaid expansion -

http://www.tampabay.com/news/health/...ft-out/2144336

I'm not sure I'd move to California (course it's a pretty expensive place to live anyway), yes there's Medicaid but it's hard to get a doctor that will take it, CA has cut back reimbursement to Medicaid doctors a lot, some of that might improve as the state budget improves I guess. Then the cheapest health insurance plan under the ACA here has massively cut back the amount of doctors and hospitals you can see - it's a very small network to get the cheapo plan.

Another thing to watch out for if you get Medicaid in ANY state and are 55 or over is they can take the money you got from Medicaid out of your estate when you die (any money that is left when you die, not a problem if you planned to die broke or leave it all to homeless cats anyway, but certainly in the big picture societal view a way of making sure those less well off don't pass down anything, not even their residence).

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Originally Posted by reader99

Sadly, in FL it's not just income. My income is aboiut $500 a month but I have aqssets greate than $2,000 so I was turned down for Medicaid. For the foreseeable future I'll continue to not have access to jhealth care.

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Everyone has to have health insurance come January 2014. Why are you exempt?

There is an exemption in states that have elected not to expand Medicaid for those who are under the amount in which the exchanges will accept you. In Texas over a million people will be falling through this huge crack in the system. And in Texas crossing the border to get health care is very terrifying - they don't have a Los Algodones to go to like I do - the towns that border Texas are full of cartel activity. I am so ashamed of the states in which human life is worth so little, and am glad to live in one that expanded Medicaid. How could I live in a state that didn't opt for it's expansion, morally, spiritually, and financially? Rob

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Originally Posted by ApatheticNoMore

I'm not sure I'd move to California (course it's a pretty expensive place to live anyway), yes there's Medicaid but it's hard to get a doctor that will take it, CA has cut back reimbursement to Medicaid doctors a lot, some of that might improve as the state budget improves I guess. Then the cheapest health insurance plan under the ACA here has massively cut back the amount of doctors and hospitals you can see - it's a very small network to get the cheapo plan.

Another thing to watch out for if you get Medicaid in ANY state and are 55 or over is they can take the money you got from Medicaid out of your estate when you die (any money that is left when you die, not a problem if you planned to die broke or leave it all to homeless cats anyway, but certainly in the big picture societal view a way of making sure those less well off don't pass down anything, not even their residence).

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There are 28 states that have expanded Medicaid under the ACA. I would think finding a doctor to take Medicaid payments is still better than having no insurance at all. I am not sure what your point is.

Do you think it is better to have no insurance at all than it is to have Medicaid?

In the ACA expansion states, there is no asset test for health insurance under Medicaid starting January 1, 2014. Are you sure under the new rules the state will take money from your estate assets for health insurance premium pay back? If so, do you have a reference for that?