Maybe the republicans could subpoena him, like they did Clinton, and end up getting him to lie about an irrelevant to the investigation blowjob when it turns out to be a nothing burger.
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Maybe the republicans could subpoena him, like they did Clinton, and end up getting him to lie about an irrelevant to the investigation blowjob when it turns out to be a nothing burger.
Diane Feinstein is dead.Quote:
Originally Posted by iris lilies
This is good. Ok I'm a terrible person for saying anyone's death is good, but that's the only way she would stop being a Senator, the damn woman would not retire. Not my fault we couldn't get rid of her, I voted for Kevin DeLeon and don't even regret it.
She changed my life.Quote:
Originally Posted by iris lilies
I remember seeing her standing on the steps of SF city hall when she was mayor, proudly announcing the (illegal) handgun ban she had just signed. And surrendering her own handgun. Well, at that time, she had one of the *8* pistol carry permits that had been issued in SF(*), and her own handgun was actually still sitting in her purse. The gun she surrendered was from the police evidence room.
I knew well several of the other 7, one of whom was on the Board of Supervisors with her at the time.
This led me to my hobby of litigating against illegal firearm regulations passed by cities and counties in California, which at the time had total state preemption of firearm regulation.
(*) This is in an era where I had to take my own town's police chief to court, because he wouldn't even hand you the from to *apply* for a permit, though according to records there was zero chance you would be approved, unless you were a close personal friend of his. One of the other jurisdictions nearby you'd have a better chance, the records in the court cases showed the process consisted of handing the issuing authority $5000 in cash when nobody was looking.
The whole thing shaped my view of how the government actually worked.
Now that she's dealing with this current health issue, will she no longer be voting?Quote:
Originally Posted by ApatheticNoMore
Haha look for her to not vote for quite a while. She’ll be damned if she steps down, though.Quote:
Originally Posted by bae
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Originally Posted by Alan
Wouldn't it be interesting if whoever runs the DNC solves the problems I mentioned above by convincing Harris to resign from the Vice Presidency so that Gavin Newsom could appoint her to fill Feinstein's seat? He's said that he will only appoint a woman of color so she's qualified, plus she could probably turn that into a long career which her current path probably can't guarantee.Quote:
Originally Posted by iris lilies
Then, those nameless folks who run the party could tell Biden he must drop out of the upcoming race so that Newsom can take his place, thereby solving several problems at once. I don't think it's much of a stretch to believe some of those folks think Feinstein's death couldn't have come at a better time.
this is the scenario we deserve, but will not get.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan
Interesting speculation. i could see where odds of Biden's re election could improve with a stronger or more popular VP rather than Harris. Whoever he might pick could have a decent shot at inheriting the presidency if Biden were elected. Newsom has the same used car salesman persona as Kevin McCarthy as I see it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan
Newsom has zero appeal to me.
He is not 80 frking years old. The oldster stuff is really bothering me.Quote:
Originally Posted by bae
The 80 year old folks have zero appeal to me as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by iris lilies
Newsom becoming the democratic nominee is about as likely as Youngkin becoming the Republican nominee. The likelihood of either happening is approximately -142%.
Bill Maher has a funny piece about “Joe Biden Bader Ginsberg” not knowing when to quit, hanging onto his job to the detriment of our country. Maher gives Joe Biden his due for past political performance, but simply, he is too old. He appears too old. Everyone thinks he’s too old.
His video included a funny bit about Mitch McConnell’s speech problem that Maher called “buffering..” Hilarious.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=k5Whdg-XLUQ
Apparently the Democrats are to be blamed for the GOP overthrowing their Speaker, and the ensuing chaos.
What a world we live in....
8 Republicans can't generate much chaos without the wholehearted support of 208 Democrats.Quote:
Originally Posted by bae
And yet it was one of the republicans that instigated the chaos. The democrats would never have brought a motion to vacate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan
Yes, that's correct, and the result was that 100% of House Democrats joined 3.6% of House Republicans in voting to vacate the speaker appointment. It seems appropriate to me to assign some blame there for the ensuing chaos.Quote:
Originally Posted by jp1
Since republicans control the house it’s on them to have prevented the chaos. But the burn it all down wing of your party loves chaos. Heck, they were also in favor of overthrowing the government a couple of years ago when their sore loser party leader lost the election so why should this be a surprise to anyone?
That's....an interesting outlook.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan
Heck, a handful of GOP representatives could trivially extend the hand of cooperation to Hakeem Jeffries and elect him as Speaker. If the GOP can't run a functional House, and do the peoples' business, they should step aside.
Apparently the stench in the wind today is "Speaker Trump", however, so don't hold your breath.
And now we learn that menendez’s then future wife was given a car by the Egyptian businessman who is accused of bribing him. After she ran over and left for dead a man. This asswipe really needs to listen to all his fellow democrats and resign already.
Maybe a package deal could be made to expel Menendez and Santos at the same time. And maybe that guy who pulled the fire alarm as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by jp1
A recent 60 minutes interview with Michael Lewis was about his interviews with Sam Bankman-Fried (i.e. SBF). As the story goes, SBF had a team of his meet with a Trump team through back channels. Sam wanted to ask, how much money if it would take for Trump not to run again and if such a thing were legal. The answer came back from the Trump team, something around five billion. It's a good story, but less believable than his meeting to buy a few favors from Mitch McConnell, which seemed legal and better documented.
The 60 minutes episode is searchable if interested and the NYT had a recent article questioning some of Lewis's accuracy.
Why would the democrats make a deal to let republicans off the hook for supporting santos. The republicans think menendez should fight and stay. The democrats would be better off pointing out that they think santos and lendmdez should resign but that republicans like shitty people.Quote:
Originally Posted by LDAHL
VP? Dems make Harris an offer she can't refuse - nomination and support in a run for Feinstein's seat?Quote:
Originally Posted by jp1
We already have three great candidates running for feinstein’s seat. And why would Harris be interested in going back to just being a senator?Quote:
Originally Posted by Simone
It is a graceful exit for her. It is for the good of the country. Are you saying she cannot see these reasons?Quote:
Originally Posted by jp1
also California gets what it wants, a black female senator.
Wow…. graceful exit? why? As jp1 said… why would she want to be demoted? Why would it be good for the country? What other VP would ever have considered this?Quote:
Originally Posted by iris lilies
No snark: I think being a UnitedQuote:
Originally Posted by frugal-one
states Senator is more interesting and useful and should interest public servants who really want to serve. It’s also incredibly prestigious. And if one is any good at the job and at campaigning, you can hold that job for decades. You can’t be vice president all that long.
Who was it who said the vice presidency was worth “a bucket of warm spit””?
Exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by LDAHL
I mean, Kamala seems to have essentially vanished from the public eye since becoming VP.
“There were once two brothers. One ran off to join the circus, the other was elected vice president; and neither was ever heard from again.”Quote:
Originally Posted by bae
timed exercise:Quote:
Originally Posted by LDAHL
Name the last 5 vice presidents… GO!
Off the top of my head, typing in real time, I've got:Quote:
Originally Posted by iris lilies
Kamala
Pence
Biden
Cheney, still in his undisclosed location?
Gore, still flying around in his jet?
Quayle, perhaps now a spokesman for the potato/potatoe industry?
Bush, the "loser" aviator from WWII and father of Shrub
Fishface, er, Mondale
Rockefeller/Ford/Agnew - Watergate and fun.
Blank
LBJ
Nixon
More Blanks
Truman
Many Blanks
Coolidge
Blank blank blankity blank
Teddy!!!!
Blank(s)
Stevenson
Blank(s)?
Andrew Johnson ("Other than that, how did you like the play?")
Blanks
Millard Fillmore (because his name sounds hilarious is the only reason he's in the brain still)
Tyler (Tippacanoe and Tyler too)
Van Buren
Calhoun (sp?)
...
George Clinton and his P-Funk Allstars
Aaron Burr ("Got Milk?")
Jefferson
Adams
(Looks like I remember the ones that became President, or have funny names, or were Founding Fathers, or are very recent)
I could do the last 5 without straining my brain, but it got pretty foggy beyond that.
I got stuck at Cheney.Quote:
Originally Posted by rosarugosa
Then, going back, got stuck at VP for President Bush I although I guess that was Dan Quayle who I remember, just not where he fit in the line of VP succession.
The only reason I even remember him is the whole potato thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by iris lilies
And Pence reportedly consulted with Dan Quayle about his boss’ request to not certify results of the 2020 Presidential election.Quote:
Originally Posted by bae
Right? I'd wiped that horror from my memory. Imagine the integrity of our government hinging on Dan Quayle's intellect!Quote:
Originally Posted by iris lilies
Agree, IL. Plus it's an assured, prestigious, well-paid job. Running on a Biden ticket might be a lot more risky.