I don’t know, I’ve heard st. Louis described In very unflattering terms for many years and it’s just not a cesspool.
I will say that at one time in my life Portland was the promised land, I was doing my best to get jobs in the Pacific Northwest and I interviewed in Corvallis with an eye getting to Portland eventually. But when I paid my first and only visit to downtown Portland it was… A disappointment. The place lacked architecture of interest.
I’m sorry Jane is no longer here to argue against this because she always did. ;)
by the way, Jane’s house sold to someone and I wonder if that party is flipping it. It needed work.