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Memoirs are notorious for being mythological. That's why I rarely read them.
Since he was obviously a psycho killer who only changed because of jesus I'm personally terrified of the idea of him becoming president since he's just once phone call from the devil away from creating horrifying chaos on this planet. I'd be MUCH more comfortable voting for someone who was never a psycho to begin with.Quote:
Originally Posted by Packratona!
And to answer your question about weird, he wouldn't be so weird if he didn't have such 'weird' ideas. Like that the pyramids were for grain storage. Or that gay people became gay in prison. Or that he thinks that a man who is clueless about policy issues should stand a chance in ****ing hell of becoming president.
Frankly it's very brave of you to admit that you're voting for him... Bless your heart.
People can change but I'm not sure it happens that much with the adult personality. It happens, but it's less common than one would hope.
However we are not adult personalities as teenagers, we may have some of the same conscious beliefs we did then or not. But it's more there's not as much capacity to handle life then. And being crazy or wild in some way as a teenager has to be a situation lots and lots of people can relate to - frontal lobes are not fully formed, hormones running wild, half crazed sometimes.
But his present ideas being nutty is a good enough reason not to vote for him in my view.
"Psycho killer"? There are several reasons we have, throughout history, standards of justice that include defense attorneys, trial by jury, judges, expert witnesses, and slander laws. Someone is assumed to be a killer because they physically threatened someone decades ago when they were a teenager. Someone is assumed to have a mental illness, even though they have never been determined to have had a mental illness by any expert in such matters, and whose life history over many years has been exemplary and stable. As far as what kind of affect prison terms have on a person's personality, I really can't comment on that...I am not an expert, and I have never seen studies on it. I try to be careful in forming opinions about things I have not studied. The pyramids thing is interesting; I don't know for how many years it has been common knowledge what the structure of pyramids is, but even if Ben should have known it at the time and didn't, well one thing I will say in his defense, is that doctors don't know everything. They spend huge amounts of time throughout their lives studying in a particular area (medicine, and in Ben's case, brain surgery), and many, many more hours preforming in the area of their expertise. Frankly, it is not surprising that a doctor would be ignorant in something many others who are not doctors, think they should know and are horrified they do not. They are not g-ds. I am sure Ben knows things, and has skills that very few other people have. He is a very intelligent man, and now has time to bone up on many other things he did not have time to, before he was retired.Quote:
Originally Posted by jp1
As far as your comment about "only changed because of Jesus" is concerned. From my perspective, people do and have changed, because of the influence of someone else. Even persons who have died, any good they have done, can have a positive impact on others long after they are gone; that is what I believe. I do think it is important when choosing a president to know and be aware of, as much as it is possible, the persons that they claim to have had an influence on them. It can be very telling. I would not venture to say that someone is mentally ill because they say that this or that person greatly influenced him; however I would try to learn as much as possible about what that person taught, if they were a huge influence on a future president. And that is tricky too; you have to be able to determine what is truth, and what is slander. And often the average person will not have this information until the person is already voted in. I also think that someone who claims to have made a huge change because of a remorse whether religious in nature or in relation to the influence of another person living or dead, has to be observed and tested over as long a period as possible, to see if genuine changes were made, in other words, to see if the change was real. The higher the power and responsibility given to that person, the more care needs to be taken. We all know that just because someone says that he has "found G-d", that doesn't mean that he actually has.
It's a good thing you "try to be careful in forming opinions about things I have not studied", however, it doesn't really require study to be aware that being gay is not a personality trait.Quote:
Originally Posted by Packratona!
So now he's retired and has time to bone up on economics, foreign policy, social issues, etc. I think it's a little too late to "study" all that and much, much more to learn to run a country. He is a joke and his studies should be nothing more than a hobby for a retired surgeon with an interest in politics. And as someone else said, bless your heart for giving him your vote, that's a secret I would take to my grave.
Agree with everything jp1 said.
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Originally Posted by jp1
I knew the purpose of the pyramids when I was in grade school. This isn't exactly highly specialized knowledge.
To bury the dead mostly I suppose, quite a belief in the afterlife there. And the pyramids have actually been poured over by archaeologists to death I suppose. But if someone suggested they were also used to store grain ... hmm I'd asked what new evidence they had etc. - new article out somewhere or something that makes this case? Because I definitely did not learn it all in grade school, and archaeologists and historians do revise, but not maybe so much on something so well studied (nor do I have much good to say about the school system). But if one has NO evidence then :laff:
Link to comments about the pyramid speech if anyone's interested. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...im-some-votes/
It does not show the entire speech he made, apparently it is not available. I'm a great believer in trying to get the whole context, especially when possible smear and slander is involved. Anyway, have at it...
There was an article on the bbc's website that explained that at one time it was believed that the pyramids were for grain storage. To the point that ST Mark's in venice has this painted on the ceiling. But it went on to say that this belief pretty much died in the renaisance when scholars from europe actually started going to egypt and actually looking at the pyramids. For someone to still believe this because the bible says so (and it doesnt, it obly says that joseph stored grain, not where or how) shows me not intelligence, but blind dogmatism.