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Gregg, I actually TYPED that but then second-guessed myself. But I agree...a lot of these things are just really ****ing stupid. And you know that engaging themselves in issues like this has to leave fewer resources for them to press issues that really matter, like real discrimination cases. Sad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gregg
Oh puglogic, feel free to express yourself any way you see fit. The forum software will see to it that we don't come across as total barbarians. ;)
There was a newly opened grocery store downtown here that displayed a cross, not obviously, but in the store on the wall. There was lots an lots of discussion about that on the city chat lists and finally the local newspaper did a story about the controversy. Much ado about nothing, I think. It's odd how so many people are afraid of being offended or are afraid that someone else may be offended and are offended in advance for that potential offense.
That's why the ACLU is hated in so many places because they've exhausted the coffers of small municipalities or other organizations and agencies. Might doesn't make right, but when the endless financial resources of the ACLU is brought to bear of a non-problem, it becomes a vanishing non-problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by puglogic
The ACLU is also the only organization out there fighting many pivotal fights (they were the first out there opposing porno scanners in the airports for instance). Again it's a matter of keeping perspective, so they may choose some dumb battles, but overall I want them there in my corner.
Is the ACLU even involved in this upset about the street sign honoring the firefighters in NYC? I've looked at a number of articles, and a group of local NYC atheists is up in arms about it, and that group has threatened to sue (although no lawsuit has been filed), but in all the articles and blogs I read, there was no mention of the ACLU being involved at all.
Contrary to impressions that people have, the ACLU involves itself in only a small fraction of the cases that come up that involve free speech issues or separation of church and state issues. And I haven't seen any indication yet that they have any connection to this case at all.
As long as you don't act too ****sure of yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gregg
It's like Mad Libs. We get to fill in the blank. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by The Storyteller
But the firefighters did not choose the street name, right? I may be losing the plot, but I think it's a dumb name, too. I do not think it was dumb that the firefighters sacrificed themselves for others. Which is definitely an idea that gains importance if you are religious.
I wouldn't worry about the atheists or the firefighters, either-- firefighters are happily enjoying family reunions in heaven, and atheists--well, they will too, in time, unless they choose to NOT be in heaven, which I suppose happens too, although it is hard to fathom anyone making that choice.
As Kenneth said in30 Rock--now my Christmas is complete--My angry God has punished them!
So peace to all of us, firefigthers, atheists, Twinkie eaters, and those wishing God would punish eveyrone else.
There is no heaven.Quote:
Originally Posted by rodeosweetheart