If they cut social security and medicare

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2-24-25, 8:34am
frugal-one

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Originally Posted by iris lilies

here’s a random article I ran into and looking up something else. Please notice which president was ready to “cut “Social Security

“…At that time, Obama reportedly offered House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, a similar deal: Reduce Social Security spending from a revised method of calculating cost-of-living increases.”

https://www.npr.org/sections/itsallp...security-offer

Reducing cost of living increases are not the same as what is now being discussed!
2-24-25, 9:28am
iris lilies

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Originally Posted by frugal-one

Reducing cost of living increases are not the same as what is now being discussed!

A trillion in cuts and raise full SS age to 69. Is that what you mean? That’s the summary I saw in a quick Google.

or maybe the cut coming down the road suits you better: an automatic 21% cut to everyone.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/social-...-donald-trump/
2-25-25, 5:24am
frugal-one

The quote above said Obama was recalculating the cost of living increases. This is not the same as as totally cutting social security.
2-25-25, 7:34am
Rogar

I've not heard anything for suer on Medicare or SS, however the family does seem bent on reducing Medicaid. One news source said two out of three elderly in long term care facilities rely on Medicaid. I've not seen any mention of where the cuts would be, although some are probably government administrators? I'm surprised the affordable care act hasn't been mentioned yet. It was a Trump favorite whipping boy in his 1.0 version.

My primary care physician not longer accepts Medicare patients due to poor compensation, although he takes some private Advantage insurances. And a specialist I see every year has complained for years about the compensation rates Medicare pays. He actually quoted compensation figures for a routine office visit recently and by my experience the local plumber makes a lot more when you consider staffing and overhead.

I can't imagine big cuts without public outrage.
3-3-25, 9:35pm
Rogar

Take it for what it's worth.

"Martin O’Malley, the former commissioner of the Social Security Administration (SSA), said Monday the recent cuts made by tech billionaire Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) at the agency could result in the “collapse” of the Social Security system “within the next 30 to 90 days.”

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5173332-social-security-cuts-risk-collapse/
3-3-25, 9:44pm
catherine

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Originally Posted by Rogar

Take it for what it's worth.

[FONT="]"Martin O’Malley, the former commissioner of the Social Security Administration (SSA), said Monday the recent cuts made by tech billionaire [/FONT][FONT="]Elon Musk’s [/FONT]Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) at the agency could result in the “collapse” of the Social Security system “within the next 30 to 90 days.”

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5173332-social-security-cuts-risk-collapse/

On Joe Rogan last night, Musk said that "Social Security is the biggest Ponzi scheme of all time.” So what do you think he would do to it if Trump gave him the authority?

At this point, anything is possible.
3-3-25, 10:26pm
bae

I tried to submit my application online to begin receiving benefits this last week. The web site was bugged and would not let me complete the application. Attempts to resolve the problem via phone wasted much time, and yielded nothing. I’m not sure I’ll ever get my SS benefits at this point.
3-4-25, 9:35am
Rachel

Yikes, Iris, these posts were long but not at all boring. I agree 100% we can not trust the government. Problem is, life in the US is set up in a way that we need some of these programs. Taking them away is just insane. A retired person can in no way fund their own health costs. I'm so glad this worked out for you and I'm outraged that you had to scrap and scratch to get what was promised to you all along. Everyone should read your posts and learn from this experience.
3-4-25, 10:43am
flowerseverywhere

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Originally Posted by bae

I tried to submit my application online to begin receiving benefits this last week. The web site was bugged and would not let me complete the application. Attempts to resolve the problem via phone wasted much time, and yielded nothing. I’m not sure I’ll ever get my SS benefits at this point.

a relative who works at an agency that has only had the probational employees dismissed said the chaos that is going on has severely hindered workflow. All their work has to be reassigned to others. Then some took the fork in the road and resigned. Most were at or over retirement parameters. Then the five accomplishment fiasco took away more time, as managers had to direct their employees what to do. In their case, what they did was up to them. My relative decided to answer the directive. They also are very careful to arrive on time, properly dressed and sit right down and go to work. They are amazed at how many coworkers actually answered by putting comments like “ I showed up”

so the chaos that is going on, transfer of work, manager decisions and figuring out what to do is only making even more inefficiency.

and who is going to suffer? People who need Medicaid, Medicare and social security just to survive. Talk about survival of the fittest and culling the old, infirm and weak. When you have no choice but to contribute to social security, many people who never made much or had bad luck are really relying on benefits.
3-4-25, 11:22am
iris lilies

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Originally Posted by flowerseverywhere

a relative who works at an agency that has only had the probational employees dismissed said the chaos that is going on has severely hindered workflow. All their work has to be reassigned to others. Then some took the fork in the road and resigned. Most were at or over retirement parameters. Then the five accomplishment fiasco took away more time, as managers had to direct their employees what to do. In their case, what they did was up to them. My relative decided to answer the directive. They also are very careful to arrive on time, properly dressed and sit right down and go to work. They are amazed at how many coworkers actually answered by putting comments like “ I showed up”

so the chaos that is going on, transfer of work, manager decisions and figuring out what to do is only making even more inefficiency.

and who is going to suffer? People who need Medicaid, Medicare and social security just to survive. Talk about survival of the fittest and culling the old, infirm and weak. When you have no choice but to contribute to social security, many people who never made much or had bad luck are really relying on benefits.

I am sorry Federal employees are being intimidated. Showing up on time appropriately dressed and getting right to work seems…ok to me. Is that really burdensome for them? Is there a culture there that has embraced laxity?

While most employees are decent and do a decent job, perhaps a little pressure to straighten up will keep the, for instance, sexually explicit chat conversations off government servers and off the government’s dime.

The federal employees at the National Security Agency engaged in sex talk and much talk about their transgender medical treatments and gender transitions.

This New York Time article covers this fiasco. Keep in mind this is an agency that is supposed to understand security concerns. Yeah, I really want these bozos protecting my country. 100 officers were fired, as they should be.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/28/u...s-gabbard.html

exerpt from the article:

Long-serving U.S. civil servants said there was little doubt that some of what was posted was inappropriate for any workplace, much less a system in classified networks that is meant for intelligence sharing. At least one of the chat rooms involved was shut down last year, according to a U.S. official.

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