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Originally Posted by Lainey
Your could probably both benefit from this: http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...n-d-williamsonQuote:
Originally Posted by UltraliteAngler
One of my favorite parts: "The mythmakers would have you believe that it was the opposite: that your white-hooded hillbilly trailer-dwelling tornado-bait voters jumped ship because LBJ signed a civil-rights bill (passed on the strength of disproportionately Republican support in Congress). The facts suggest otherwise."
Alan likes his "history" to mirror and/or validate his views.
This is called confirmation bias.
I have often thought that the Democrats eagerness to associate themselves with the civil rights movement was reminiscent of all those Frenchman who claimed to be part of the Resistance after the war.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan
Your tendency to challenge/question/talk shit without research/opinion/sources to back yourself up is called trolling.Quote:
Originally Posted by UltraliteAngler
(And your choice to direct your trolling at me is called stupid, when I place someone on ignore it's board wide and final.;))
Almost another one?
Video: Austin police body-slam black teacher, tell her blacks have ‘violent tendencies’
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...nt-tendencies/
This is an interesting video. on first viewing, I dont think the cop was terribly out of line, but then, I don't know their training and what they are supposed to do in those situations.Quote:
Originally Posted by UltraliteAngler
The woman chose several times to resist doing what the cop asked her to do. Multiple resistances. He is calm but commanding throughout.
It is always shocking to see people engaging in physical altercations, and when it is a small woman and a big man, that is doubly shocking. But he did not hit her and said several times that he did not want to hit her.
Him engaging with her in conversation about race issues was stupid. Regardless of the situation, it is no win, it is pointless.
No, it exposed some prejudices that need to have some light on them.Quote:
Originally Posted by iris lilies
The one that really bothers me is the unarmed aide for the austistic man who completely complied, lying on the ground with his arms up, and was shot anyway - the police chief's explanation is that this swat team member actually shot 3 times at the nonthreatening autistic person holding a toy truck and struck the aide once instead. The police officer's immediate response to why he shot was "I don't know." I this hope never happens to my son.Quote:
Originally Posted by iris lilies
Wait, that is not "resisting?"Quote:
Originally Posted by creaker
Agreed, this one is harder to explain from the police side, given my usual cursory view. It is impossible to know from this video the perceived threat to the immediate community from these two men.Quote:
Originally Posted by creaker
I did like how the newscaster outed the shooter LEO as a "white hispanic" officer. Is that now the journalistic standard? I mean, white hispanics? Are there black hispanics? Brown Hispanics? Hispanics of color?
Yes. "Hispanic" is cultural, not racial.Quote:
Originally Posted by iris lilies
Ok, I know that is the way the census and many demographic surveys are set up. In those situations we honor the person's self identity.Quote:
Originally Posted by bae
In this case when the media assigns the race snd cuktural identity, the media's decision seems suspect.
Wow.Quote:
Originally Posted by iris lilies
It's not just self identity. There are really black Hispanics. I work with one. From Panama. She's as back as you can imagine, Spanish is first language, immigrated here, and you should see people's surprise when they hear her Spanish accent. 😄
It's not just semantics. I know people from Spanish-speaking countries, born-and-raised there, from families that have been there many generations, who range from blond-blue-eyed-pale-white-skin to very very dark.Quote:
Originally Posted by iris lilies
As to the media's motives in their wording, well....
Dude, a citizen called 911 to report a man with a gun in the street.Quote:
Originally Posted by UltraliteAngler
Yup, you need to know the backstory before reaching conclusions. What was called in? What did dispatch say? What were the officers expecting to find? How did they get there? Etc....Quote:
Originally Posted by iris lilies
Our dispatch officers have been trained to *not* initially tell us certain things on the way to the site of the call, so as not to prejudice our assessment and reactions, and to keep us from getting too amped-up while driving to the location.
After this discussion I will give the media some slack, although maybe
I think they dont have to mention cultural affiliation since how would they know besides a Surname? I would think that smeone's color is often tricky, too.
I worked with someone for two decades before I learned she was African American. I just figured she was of Greek or Mediterrainian background.
No need to respond here, I am just musing.
"African-American" is a label that sometimes doesn't make sense if taken literally too. Charlize Theron for example, or my high-school roommate from Zimbabwe.Quote:
Originally Posted by iris lilies
I guess you are right. Turns out David Duke is a running as a democrat!Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/poli...te-run-n615006
Go back far enough in time, and we're all African-Americans.Quote:
Originally Posted by bae
Or the singer Dave Matthews. He was born in Johannesburg but became a US citizen when he was a teenager.Quote:
Originally Posted by bae
It sounds to me like an autistic man with a toy in his hand and his aide would be real threats-good thing they shot them:confused:
when the aide asked "why did you shoot me?", the officer said, "I don't know." We have a long road to hoe. Creaker already said this, I'm just speechless on this one. I am glad I don't have a loved one in a group home who doesn't respond to traditional commands
To make money?Quote:
Originally Posted by bae
I do - and most of the workers in my son's group home tend to be people of color. The current group of people working his home have been great. I'm just glad things are easier in my area. My son needs lot of walks - and it puts these workers out strolling in the "wrong" (wrong in the sense where I could imagine someone picking up the phone and reporting it) neighborhood (Brookline). But if there's been any issues I've haven't heard.Quote:
Originally Posted by freshstart
They probably won't tell you because they are afraid of losing clients. At one point I worked with group homes so know how they operate.
That would be half right. If you went back that far, there wasn't America and we probably didn't call it Africa.Quote:
Originally Posted by LDAHL
For whatever reason my parents decided I had to be born in the states - if they hadn't sent my mom over when she was 7 months pregnant, I would have been born in Libya to an American citizen and an Italian citizen - and I would have had an endless choice of labels :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by ToomuchStuff
Depending on the time frame, you might look up what medicine was like in that country, mortality rates and such.Quote:
Originally Posted by creaker