I'm in the firestorm of the NW. Trucks are moving fresh produce just fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by mschrisgo2
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I'm in the firestorm of the NW. Trucks are moving fresh produce just fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by mschrisgo2
We have no limits at our stores.
Grocery shopping yesterday and bagged apples were back in stock. Not as many as previously, but quite a bit. You were probably right, mschrisgo2 and others, who said it was probably supply line.
Had a very short list this time and kept my portion under $50, so added a pre-packaged donation bag of food. I like that the grocery store is doing that now. Having it pre-bagged for purchase and ready for delivery must make it easier all around.
Still a bit nervous about supply. Am seeing a few bare shelves. I have everything stocked as I would for winter preparation. I bought a few extra things because prices seem to be going up as well.
Our closest Kroger had yeast on the shelf and two different types in jars. Wow. Have not seen this in awhile.
Yeah, we have only had the packets, no jars at all for months.
The stores are increasingly a free for all. Lots of people ignore the directional arrows on the aisles. They stand right next to you. Even at checkout where there are markings every six feet some guy was standing one foot away from me. Although social distancing is much more important than mask wearing it is not enforced. The Boards of Health only impose fines for mask noncompliance. They are not doing a good job. I thought of saying something to the guy crowding me in the checkout lane, but then I said to myself if no one in government cares about the real risk factors, and they want to focus on placebos like poorly fitted non-N95 masks why should I care? If I get covid I get it. We all have to die of something some day. Get the government and its mandates off my back and maybe I will care again.
Another thing that has gone by the wayside is extra cleaning, of credit card keypads etc. I have seen this at my own job where the woman assigned to do covid cleaning has not done it for months now, as well as at stores that used to clean by the registers and the conveyor belt between customers but don't anymore.
I feel like things were a lot safer when people were being told not to wear masks but save them for health care workers, because LOTS of other things were being done to keep people safe.
Y, masks aren’t causing your unhappiness. They are something to focus on but definitely not the cause. I hope you figure out what is really bothering you.
“Messaging that people need to wear a mask is essential, but insufficient,” she said. “It should go hand in hand with education that masks don’t give you a free pass to see as many people as you want. You still need to strictly limit your contacts.”Quote:
Originally Posted by Yppej
From a link you thought important in another thread. https://www.mychamplainvalley.com/ne...ndates-needed/
I am thinking you are right about this, TT.Quote:
Originally Posted by Teacher Terry
People getting lax about distancing or whatever probably has little to do with masks and more to do with we're on month one million or something of this thing now.
It's not even conscious, there are times I get out of a grocery store and wondered if I've forgotten to distance while in it (with checking out I distance from clerks etc., but I mean just wandering around). Sometimes you can't distance. Probably not huge either way, your talking a few minutes exposure to an aresol virus where dose and time matters. But noone can keep up the level of fear driven high vigilance of the first few months that depend on 100 moment by moment decisions. They can just do their best, and do conscious things like put on a mask before going to the store, one decision, often helped by local laws requiring it.
It was chilly this morning and by the time I got to the checkout line my nose was running. Could I take off my mask to blow my nose? Of course not. I could be banned from the store and fined $300. Such is life in the People"s Republic of Massachusetts.
So I pressed my mask against the bottom of my nose to sop up the snot.
Will I spend my hard earned money buying another mask? No, I will turn it inside out. My exhalations will push the snot germs into the air for others to breathe. Thus do I rebel against a government so stupid it does not let people blow their noses.
Please. Have mercy.
I have year round bad allergies and frequently sneeze into my mask which is nasty. I own 10 so I can use a new one daily and have plenty of time to wash them. Y, that’s just plain nasty and disgusting!! No regard for others.
No, you are just a stupid person who will not go to some private area/area with no people present, lift her mask, blow her nose and then put her mask back on - all taking less than a full minute to accomplish.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yppej
I can understand being generally pissed off about the whole Covid thing, but I think anger at our governor is misdirected. He is just trying to help us stay alive.
Jeppy, I would be glad to buy you a couple of decent masks (or at least the ones I've found to be most satisfactory). PM me if you want to take me up on my offer.
Well when I flipped sides I noticed the mask was stained with what looks like makeup so I tossed it. I still have a couple other masks. But I like to have a few on hand and use them until they wear out.
I judge politicians by results. The governor has done some stupid and some unconstitutional things. I think he also brings his bias from being a former healthcare executive to bear.
His latest move is to spend who knows how many millions reactivating field hospitals some of which were never used in the spring. He is part of a healthcare industrial complex that would be happy to have us spend all our money on healthcare, nothing is too much.
Here is a chart of healthcare as a percent of GDP by country:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/...ecd-countries/
Here is a chart of healthcare as a percent of GDP in the US over time. Click on expand to see earlier years:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/...dp-since-1960/
During his decade as an executive at the Harvard Pilgrim health insurance company Baker raised premiums 150% and tripled his own salary to $1.7 million dollars. Source: The Boston Globe. That tells you a little about his priorities (which certainly don't include anything like single payer that would prioritize covering everyone over the existing system that enriched him.)
ETA here is another link with several charts comparing the US to other developed countries in percent of GDP spent on healthcare:
https://www.healthsystemtracker.org/...es/#item-start
At last, yppej and I agree on something. The country needs medicare for all to end the ridiculous healthcare industrial complex.
I would also like to see national healthcare for all.Quote:
Originally Posted by jp1
I made my first successful Instacart order. This time, I did not use the APP. Sometimes direct interaction with a website works better for me than the APP.
I ordered $37 worth of bottled and canned items and will go pick them up later today.
Just another supportive comment for healthcare for all in the US. I've witnessed it firsthand in action in Europe and Canada, and though not perfect, it was pretty stunning to see.
Since not a single case of covid has been linked to surface contamination a while back my state started allowing reusable bags again. So imagine my surprise today when for the first time a cashier told me I can't start loading my stuff on the end of the conveyor belt until the person ahead of me is all checked out, although that person is more than 6 feet away from me. It would be one thing if they were spraying down the belt between customers like some stores (Kohls is one) do, but they are not. I asked, "Is this something new?" The cashier did not give me any response at all, very rude. I went to a different checkout line and next week I think I will go to a different supermarket.
The event and response just strikes me as very over-the-top funny. So sorry you were inconvenienced. Hope the next grocery store better suits your expectations.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yppej
Considering one of our hospitals is using their parking garage that they renovated in the spring I bet Y’s governor is probably using those field hospitals. It was smart to plan in advance.
I wondered about this too. Now our Meijer is back to having the little bars between orders and they don't wipe anything down anymore, not the belt or the keypad. I guess I am never sure what the routine is supposed to be on any given shopping day. I'm trying to do more self check out, but it's easier for me to do the regular check out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yppej
Anyway, I'm glad that groceries have gotten away from the one way feet marks. That was not working very well! I'm also surprised by how different it is to shop early in the day, versus late in the day. Got to remember to go first thing in the morning.
We still have the one way feet marks but only about half the people follow them (about the ratio you'd get if there were no marks). I follow them because I figure the extra walking is good exercise, even if it does keep me on the store around other people longer.
It's frustrating to see how stubbornly we cling to the most inefficient way to provide healthcare, even in the face of evidence that a better way has been proven to work over and over again.Quote:
Originally Posted by ewomack
We've been ordering groceries on-line the last couple of weeks.
DW got the ingredients for our Thanksgiving dinners from Hy-Vee and requested drive-up service. I reserved a fresh turkey at our food co-op and threw in the car some items that I prefer to buy at the co-op and picked up that order at curbside last week. Today I ordered a couple of weeks of groceries through Target and drove up for them. Nice system. Ordering was easy (couldn’t find how to substitute if they were out of something but they had everything I wanted so not a problem this time). I like that pickup is respectful of the way life is sometimes (you can alter the generous pickup times, etc.). If you have a smartphone and allow them to use location services, they know when you've arrived at the store and automagically send you the code that matches up with your order.
The only downsides were that it seems they used a separate shopping bag for each aisle they visited. And there were some weird exclusions -- at least at this Target, it was not possible to order a bunch of cilantro or parsley. I could buy them in the store. They would deliver them to me via Shipt. But, for some reason, they cannot put them in a bag and take them out to my car. Radishes cannot be purchased outside of the store at all (no pickup, no Shipt). Just odd. I put that in my feedback on the "experience"; we'll see if anything comes of it.
After this spring's Instacart fiasco I'm very happy to see that there are companies that get it. I think we'll be ordering groceries this way for at least the next few weeks as we watch the infection numbers skyrocket. May keep it up all winter. I used to enjoy grocery shopping but not so much any more.
I tried Safeway (again) but was dismayed to complete my order only to find there's no provision for non-contact delivery. You can choose it, but it won't give you a delivery time. I've talked to their help desk, but wasn't particularly satisfied with the "just make a note on your order" answer. You either offer NCD or you don't. So back to Amazon Fresh, Whole Foods, Costco--even Domino's knows how to do a non-contact delivery correctly.
Have been going shopping during senior or off hours about every 3 weeks. Ordered face shields today to wear with masks. Really like picking my own produce and groceries but concerned with mega virus spike in the area. Based on comments here will check into on line ordering and drive up too.
So I just got a reply from Target about 1) why certain produce items were unavailable
So I guess Shipt has a different arrangement for some of the produce because they'll send me herbs. This also does not explain why, for example, only certain flavors of Chobani yogurt are stocked on the shelf but not all of them are available for drive-up. But the limitations make sense. And I didn't ask about yogurt.Quote:
Those [leafy herbs and radish bunches] are in our misting cooler to make sure they stay fresh. The cooler in the hold spaces doesn't have any misting. We also can't do weighable [sic] produce. Luckily for essentials like potatoes and apples etc we do have prepackaged bag options but there are a few items still that we don't have available.
and 2) why so many plastic bags?
It makes sense that more than one employee (demerit for not referring to them as "team members"; these are Target folks, not Shipt ;)) may be doing the picking. I'm also used to meat and frozen items being bagged at the checkout line and then put in the grocery bag so the meat doesn't leak and the condensation from the frozen food does not affect other items. But, gee, maybe someone at the end of the order could put things in fewer bags as they verify the order (or maybe they don't verify??). The bags never leave the store and could be re-used if they're still clean. I'd trust Target to do that.Quote:
the amount of bags is something we have become aware of and we are working to minimize the amount of plastic we have per order. Often if you have frozen or cold items those items will be grabbed separately from your dry goods so we can get them to our coolers and freezers as quickly as possible. But in order to do that then there will be multiple employees working the same order to ensure you get your items in a timely manner.
To Target's credit, everything looked fine. I definitely would order from them again. And it was nice to get such prompt answers to my questions.
Thanks for sharing, Steve, especially about the plastic bags. I think it may be the same across various stores. The limited times I did order groceries online for pickup, I was stunned and dismayed at the number of plastic bags used with my limited order.
I have noticed with curbside library pickup every book has a printed slip vs 1 for everything when I was allowed inside.
Our library is back to curbside, too. It was so weird--we just happened to be in the library both days where they announced they were shutting down at the end of the day. Hmm. Was it us, I wonder?
Our library is also closing the inside, but still operating curbside.
Ours never reopened, has been closed since March and curbside only since the summer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tybee
Tybee: lol, what did you do?!
Yppej: same here, and I don't see why they cannot open fully with the same type of safeguards private businesses are implementing. Our town hall also has been closed since the beginning of the pandemic, which seems unreasonable to me.
The SF library has always used an individual slip for reserved books. I assume that the picker is grabbing books for multiple orders that are in the same general section of the library rather than running around the whole place for each book for one order.
Did my weekly grocery shopping yesterday and was actually surprised by the empty shelf space I'm starting to see again. Only mega packs of paper towels and just a few of those, more tp but still a lot of empty shelf space, canned goods were sparse in some spots and even the ziplock bag shelf had empty spots! Don't know if it is production, delivery or stocking up or what. I did buy another 12 pack of tp... just in case.
I ordered and received quickly my who gives a crap toilet paper. It’s awesome as Catherine said and I got 48 rolls. I love that 50% of the profits go to provide toilets around the world to people without them.