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So just out of curiousity: who is it, you think believes that grain was stored in the pyramids because "the Bible said so"? If you are saying that Carson said that, all I have seen is that he stated 17 years ago that it was a theory he had at the time. NOT that he said the BIBLE said that. Are you raising a straw dog here or have you heard him (or someone particular that you know) say this?Quote:
Originally Posted by jp1
http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-34741010
Here's the article I read. I'm not a bible expert but apparently the old testament does say that Joseph helped the Egyptians survive a famine by storing 7 years of grain.
From the article:
In the Old Testament, Joseph is sold into slavery in Egypt by his brothers, where he later interprets a pharaoh's dreams and helps the Egyptians survive a seven-year famine - by storing grain. There is no mention of pyramids in the Bible's version of the story but in the Middle Ages people started to write them into the story.
"If you go to St Mark's cathedral in Venice, there's a medieval depiction showing people using the three great pyramids of Giza as granaries in Joseph's story," says John Darnell, a professor of Egyptology at Yale University.
"If you didn't have access to the structures, the idea had some currency."
Yes, I read the article, and nowhere does it say that Carson believes that Joseph stored grain in THE PYRAMIDS "because the Bible said so". So you have raised a straw dog, and have also questioned his intelligence and accused him of blind dogmatism, based on something he never said. He stated that was his PERSONAL THEORY that the grain that Joseph stored, was stored in the pyramids. Now if you want to say he is not intelligent and blindly dogmatic because he believes the Biblical account of Joseph storing the grain (wherever he might have stored it, it doesn't say) then that is another thing altogether. But it is not necessary to put words in his mouth to do this. Just use the words he actually did say.
But yes, that is an interesting article about the prior medieval depiction of the grain being stored in the pyramids.
Based on his religious beliefs it is a logical conclusion that I came to, especially since members of his audience said "Amen." When he gave his theory. If you'd rather believe that it's just that he's ignorant of the widely known fact that there's not enough room in the pyramids to store much grain, or that mummified people were found in them, that's your choice.
In other words, it is your personal belief, based on what you think you know about his religious beliefs, that Ben believes that Joseph stored the grain in the PYRAMIDS "because the Bible said so". It is not based on him actually stating this, rather, what he has consistently stated, was that this was his PERSONAL theory. So you assume that he thinks something that he has never said, because of assumptions you have about his religious belief. Am I reading this correctly?
No, he was not ignorant of what was believed at the time about the pyramids holding mummified remains, in fact he refers to that in the article you posted. So no, based on the actual words he stated, I can see that he was not ignorant of that. He simply has another theory, a personal theory.
A theory is just a theory; it certainly can be proven wrong, which is why it is just a theory. I was just speculating in my previous post, that he might have been ignorant of the available information, but now I see from the article you posted, that he was well aware of it. He just has another theory. I will say, however, that I can easily see it as entirely possible for a doctor, even a BRAIN SURGEON to be incorrect, mistaken, and yes, ignorant of certain things, and come to the wrong conclusions because of that. Even medical things. No one is perfect. But in the big scheme of things, each one of us has to determine for ourselves, what are the really important qualities for a good leader, and who has them. For me, honesty, compassion, humility, and wisdom top the list. That automatically rules out certain people, no matter how religious or not religious they they may claim to be.
I found this article about the different ways the term "theory" is interpreted quite interesting. Words and how they are defined matter. http://www.livescience.com/21491-what-is-a-scientific-theory-definition-of-theory.html
Based on his numerous apologies for getting this or that wrong, or offending this or that group or having contentious religious convictions or providing inaccurate or inflated accounts of past incidents........I think it is reasonable to exclude him from ones list of candidates for the top political position in the most influential nation on Earth.
I would not try to comment on what anybody else is thinking or what they believe, and I honestly know nothing about the pyramids, but couldn't it be possible that the pyramids were used both as tombs and for grain storage? Why could not both theories be correct, especially in a culture that piled up things for the use of the dead in the next life?
well, I should stop criticizing him and hope his fan base expands like the loaves and fishes because then the Dems could run a ham sandwich and win. Wait, mixing metaphors..... Kind of like, Mr CarsonQuote:
Originally Posted by Williamsmith
Personally I don't really care if he came up with his 'theory' about the pyramids from reading the bible or from a conversation with the man in the moon, or anything else. The thing that concerns me is that he came up with his theory while ignoring easily available info about the pyramids that contradicted his 'theory'. Him devising a theory of why some really old structures were built, while ignoring commonly accepted knowledge, is fine. But him doing the same thing while making decisions about public policy or foreign affairs, as president of the US, is absolutely NOT ok. Decisions about public policy or foreign affairs are literally life and death decisions. If he's not capable of making logical decisions, which he clearly isn't, then I don't want him to have any control over the life and death decisions that our president makes on a daily basis.
+1 to JP1's assessment.