Please explain this to me

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Originally Posted by Gardnr

Are you for real? OK. Experiment. Please go to the nearest hospital. Ask to sit in a COVID room on a COVID unit for 6 hours with no PPE. You should be fine according to your babble above.

Your lack of interest in actually understanding basic facts is so far beyond my ability to comprehend.....l

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I guess you missed where I wrote, "in non-medical situations where one is not within 6 feet of the same person for 15 minutes or more (the standard for contact tracing)."

Good point, Yppej, about being able to be with dying relatives for 15 minutes if we wear a mask. It is definitely something that needs to be addressed.

In Asian countries people have been wearing masks for years. It’s not a big deal. My take on Y is that her job worries are affecting other areas of her life. If you mask up to be with a dying person you are putting medical staff at more risk and risk spreading the virus. I would prefer to die alone than spread it to my family. Sacrifices need to be made and previous generations make us look like big babies.

I've never been with a loved one when they died--unless you count my cats. It's my opinion that we all die alone.

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Originally Posted by Teacher Terry

In Asian countries people have been wearing masks for years. It’s not a big deal. My take on Y is that her job worries are affecting other areas of her life. If you mask up to be with a dying person you are putting medical staff at more risk and risk spreading the virus. I would prefer to die alone than spread it to my family. Sacrifices need to be made and previous generations make us look like big babies.

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I wonder how more mask wearing in this country would affect death rates from annual flu strains.

In my family no one has died alone. My mom and I were with my dad and my brother with my mom. All our parents were with their parents but no one died suddenly.

My father was with my mother when she left, but he was asleep, so she slipped away. ;)

The sad things is masks may be one of the few tools we actually have to lessen this pandemic.

And yes that's sad, because countries that actually have a government that's not COMPLETELY USELESS have other options although they probably make use of masks as well. I wish we could get there but this country is so screwed up. Some might say "herd immunity" is an option, even if that is possible (a matter of debate), I've heard predictions it would take until 2022 to achieve WITHOUT overwhelming hospitals. Or we go for overwhelming hospitals. Meanwhile the economy is not fully coming back, because the more deaths on the news and more so in people's direct immediate experience, the more people are afraid etc.. If we wanted the economy to really come back, we would have to do something to control the pandemic.

My dad was so doped up on morphine when he died that no we weren't with him when he died, because he wouldn't have been with us in any sense regardless. I think this is usually how death really goes (and that's the good death not the dying in excruciating pain or anything death).

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Originally Posted by Yppej

I see this is not peer reviewed. I liked the first comment about how the non financial costs of wearing masks was ignored in the article.

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I guess if you'd read the actual study, instead of the random comments, you'd see that it is a review of the relevant published literature.

But why bother.