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Originally Posted by iris lilies
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Originally Posted by iris lilies
I support an increase in Social Security benefits to US citizens who have paid into the system. I also support universal healthcare so they do not have to pay for supplemental Medicare plans. If you're looking for an advocate of reduced social spending you've got the wrong person.Quote:
Originally Posted by jp1
I was just trying to make your mass death plan more appealing to conservatives.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yppej
And boy that never gets old.Quote:
Originally Posted by jp1
Anecdotal evidence from two of the nursing homes/assisted living places we looked at for my parents in Maine.
No cases in my parents' facility, and a very good plan in place for what happens if someone does develop the virus.
In the one we did not go with, here is their situation:
"There continue to be no positive cases at x, independent living at y, or the z Center building which houses short term rehab and skilled nursing. We are following CDC guidelines for isolation, designated staffing and additional personal protective equipment. The A, assisted living, had a total of 15 individuals who tested positive for COVID-19 between April 10 and April 24: ten residents and five staff members. All of the staff and eight residents have recovered, one resident has passed away, and one remains in the hospital. "
I know there were cases at the Veteran's Home but do not know those numbers.
I have been extremely impressed with the measures being taken to protect residents, although obviously quite concerned with the impact that some of the measures is having on people's mental functioning, which is declining, at least in my parents, who are showing cognitive decline due to isolation.
The facilities are in a terrible position. So are the families. There was no warning, no notice, no opportunity to take them out. But the facilities are working so hard to protect their residents, and we are very grateful.
I guess this is just fallout from a generally terrible situation.
And talk about body bags at Costco-- you think this makes things better for people?
I really feel sorry for the residents and workers in homes. It’s a huge risk to all involved. Even young workers are dying.
Yes. Healthcare workers in EVERY environment are at significant risk. I doubt SNFs had a supply of N95 masks at all let alone a satisfactory inventory of regular face masks.:|(Quote:
Originally Posted by Teacher Terry
Yes, healthcare workers are at risk. But imagine a world in which all infectious diseases were eliminated from the face of the earth. How many of them would be out of work? Their whole profession is based on people being sick. The US healthcare model incentivizes treatment of illnesses rather than prevention. I write that we should encourage people to improve their lifestyles so they are less susceptible to the coronavirus and people disagree.
Infectious disease as a cause, is a very small portion of healthcare provided. So a tiny # of jobs would be lost!Quote:
Originally Posted by Yppej
Please do share, what makes a person "suspectible"to Coronovirus? And how would one prevent asthma? How does one prevent old age? Why does a child get Type 1 Diabetes that goes on with them through adulthood? How does one prevent hypertension?
Who is most at risk for the coronavirus disease?
People of all ages can be infected by the new coronavirus (2019-nCoV). Older people, and people with pre-existing medical conditions (such as asthma, diabetes, heart disease) appear to be more vulnerable to becoming severely ill with the virus.
WHO advises people of all ages to take steps to protect themselves from the virus, for example by following good hand hygiene and good respiratory hygiene.
I suppose we could pretend that there haven’t been nursing homes with catastrophic death rates from this but denying reality isn’t particularly useful. What’s next? States squashing research about the virus and what’s likely to happen when they reopen too soon? Oh wait, that’s exactly what’s happening in states like Arizona and Florida.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tybee
People SHOULD be horrified at the idea of Costco pallets of body bags. But the answer is not to pretend that it isn’t reality, The answer is to hold our elected leaders accountable to make sure that those bulk body bags aren’t needed.