I just stumbled across this article on various mainstream news sources:
https://www.stopthepresses.news/p/im...mocracy-grades
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I just stumbled across this article on various mainstream news sources:
https://www.stopthepresses.news/p/im...mocracy-grades
I'm not familiar with the author but after reading his review of each source I get the feeling he'd rate them all with an 'A' if they'd only do a better job of validating his own biases.
Odd how that works in these various ratings.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan
I myself have been increasingly relying on European news sources, partially to get a different from-a-distance point of view, partially to regain language fluency in German and French.
I think it's worthwhile looking at sources from all over, and then tracking down primary sources.
I've seen other versions that make more sense to me, but it is difficult to find one that is bias free. I don't have any huge issues with mainstream media but it's not always correct. There's always BBC, which I listen to on public radio and TV.
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All Media begs to differ. Their chart reflects point of view, not necessarily accuracy. We have used the source before, I remember someone posted it. I think it was Tradd.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rogar
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https://www.allsides.com/media-bias/media-bias-chart
Not to pass judgement on who is the most correct, but you'd think in the modern age some one would come up with metrics, like fact check accuracy, focus on non partisan issues, and quality of reporting. Or whatever, rather than some sort of dart toss.Quote:
Originally Posted by iris lilies
Well, that’s what your source and the source I posted is doing. The world and world of news is far too complex to be reduced fo black and white absolutes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rogar
But bae’s source, that is flawed.
bae's source isn't flawed because it measures the author's opinion, not a more objective scale to measure right- vs left- leaning sources.Quote:
Originally Posted by iris lilies
"These grades are just my opinions, based on whether the outlets follow the facts to expose the assault on our democratic system." And his measure of "assault on our democratic system" is clearly biased--defined as those he trusts to "do a good job of battling disinformation and exposing Donald Trump’s power grabs."
The other maps, Rogar's and iris's, attempt to be more objective in terms of assessing how right- or lef-leaning each news source is. Two different metrics.
I rely heavily on Snopes these days because they actually do analyze the sound bites, Facebook/X memes and other rumors. As for the mainstream press, I know they are all biased. I have learned to hold an equal distrust of what is printed by the left and the right. Yet, I am much more likely to read the ones that feed my own confirmation bias--NYT, Atlantic, and I subscribe to several ex-contributors of the NYT and other media, like Paul Krugman, Dan Rather.
The only way I can escape bias in journalism is to read as many different opinions as I can, and, as bae does, make sure I get some exposure to ex-US sources.
I am really pleased to see news media across the spectrum standing up to Hegseth.
OK sure, but what value to us is that writer‘s opinion? What if I put my own chart out, Iris‘s opinion on various news sources? So what, who cares?Quote:
Originally Posted by catherine
That’s not a contribution that matters.Perhaps this author of bae’s is known and respected in some circles, I dont know, but I dont know him.
I agree with your approach to news which is to recognize the bias of each news source. It is really great when those news sources themselves state their bias but most of them never will. Megyn Kelly (not a news source, but an opinion podcaster) talks about the importance of being straight with her audience on her preconceived point of view.
edited to add: hmm, I have actually heard of Marc Jacob. So as a former editor of a major newspaper, his opinion would have more weight in this world than the Iris Lily poll.
okay---i've always listened to THN, because the news is the best. THN(which stands for Tinfoil Hat Network) has all the latest news on the stuff I like, and nona the stuff i'm disinterested in, such as so-called "world piece". Kids, there isn't any such thing as "world piece", any more than there is Santa Claws or the Tooth Fairy, so forget it. It's just another thing Ol' Jimmah Cahtah dreamed up ta get votes, like "rebaits" Ha. . See? Hope that helps you some. Thankk Mee. Yup.
NY Times, the Economist, the New Yorker. I have digital subscriptions to all of these.
I also listen to the Marketplace podcast, plus the Daily and Headlines NYT podcasts daily.
I listen to BBC Radio daily, mostly Radio 4 and 5 Live. The BBC Newscast and Americast podcasts as excellent.
NPR is in there occasionally. I also listen to WGN AM Chicago all day long. Mainstream news talk. None of the right wing stuff and mostly local programming.
You listen to BBC right off their website to get more!Quote:
Originally Posted by Rogar
I fired up an old AM/FM radio last week to see what I could actually receive in the way of commercial broadcasts from my home, which is halfway up the side of the tallest mountain for 60 miles. (Indeed, the summit of the mountain has multiple transmitter towers that mostly provide the broadcast site for regional TV stations and emergency/government services. I'm one of the backup technicians for that site, as I can hike up there from here during bad storms).
Anyways, I hadn't listened to broadcast radio for years, and got tons of stations - lots from Canada, as I have line-of-sight to Vancouver and Victoria, and lots of down-sound stations.
So, I took a chance, and ordered the highest quality tabletop AM/FM radio I could find (Sangean HD-19), which also receives the new HD radio protocols, which I'd never played with.
TLDR: this is quite nice, and a pleasant change from doomscrolling. I have lots of long-form interview and news stations available, in particular.
I feel like my grandpa, kicking back and listening to the radio, while the fire crackles away and the storm howls outside.
It's really sort of great.
https://i.imgur.com/nrXTK0j.jpeg
Bae, don't care about the booze, but that radio is awesome.
We were always a radio household but now I queue up audio podcasts if I’m working around the house or in the garden, don’t need no stinkin video.
The streaming Talking Heads pretty much sit at their desks and quack quack anyway so you get 90% of their content through audio.
this reminds me that so many of my favorite podcasts are now charging anywhere from $3.99 to $5.99 monthly to subscribe to their content. They still put out free episodes but us freeloaders don’t get the content until it is a couple days old. And now so many of their older episodes are accessible only through paid subscription.
They are overestimating how important they are in my life.
That's probably a lifetime supply of booze for me. I quite like good whiskey, but the whole household goes through a single bottle perhaps in four years. These are mostly gifts from houseguests. I bought the two bottles of Uncle Nearest for our book group, which read a wonderful book a few years ago, ""Love & Whiskey: The Remarkable True Story of Jack Daniel, His Master Distiller Nearest Green, and the Improbable Rise of Uncle Nearest." and I got the bottles for our discussion meetings on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tradd
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Originally Posted by flowerseverywhere
By coincidence that's a Stickley table under that cloth, from the 1930s or so.
Ah, but... that only works when the Internet is functioning :-)Quote:
anyway, there are radio apps you can get that have numerous stations.
Personally I love the Ginko leaf cloth. We have all stickley quarter sawn oak furniture, some with Inlays. We started buying pieces about 40 years ago and they still look brand new. Also Tiffany style lamps. I even stenciled motifs around the top of our bathroom walls. Love the whole arts and crafts movement and we have visited numerous Frank Lloyd Wright houses around the country. Also Fiancé pottery.
anyway, there are radio apps you can get that have numerous stations.
That radio is awesome, and I think I just found my husband's next birthday present.