We don't do live-fire training on houses with hoarder issues, it's too dangerous for the firefighters. Considerable chance of entrapment/entanglement. I'm prepping a house right now to use for training this fall, and we're removing all the junk first, and it was mostly-empty to begin with.Originally Posted by UltraliteAngler
Also consider that firefighters will be quite hesitant to perform a search of the home if it is burning for real if it has a hoarding problem....
haha well, to provide an object lesson to many people. For every senior who refuses to leave their unable-to-maintain lifestyle, there are 3 others watching the shitstorm and are convinced to take appropriate action for their own lives. Or, let's hope.
Very good info to know! If possible, maybe we'll just empty it out and then ask about fire training. If no dice, I guess we can sell it for a few thousand bucks and wish the new owner good luck.
I was a social worker for awhile & call the health department and the state or county offices of aging services. They will step in if it is unsanitary/dangerous for their own welfare and that of the pets involved. However, be prepared for the reaction from your parents. You could do it anonymously.
Just a few weeks ago a house up the street from my main flower garden was condemed for occupancy.all were forced to move out, but it was a rental. While the house itself was declared unfit for habitation, that was the tool used to move out the thugs who lived there. Thugs were causing lotsa crime, shooting each other, pulling in their no good nick associates, spilling over in multi generations with no job. Their old grandpa rented the place.
The main driver for neighborhood improvement, a yuppie urban pioneer guy, worked with city officials to get them out.
had there not been so many calls for service of law enforcement there, I doubt there would have been interest amoung city agencies to move them out.
right behind them is a true shack, practically tar paper, that lacks adequate plumbing. During very cold spells the old inhabitant, Bob, stays with a kind neighbor who kicks him out each morning after using a bed, toilet,and water. In no world would bob's tiny shack be considered appropriate housing in America. But Bob keeps his head down doesn't cause trouble, and we all accept him and his tar paper shack as a neighborhood fixture. It would not surprise me if Bob is a hoarder because I do see stacks of junk through his windows.
Interestingly enough, this same set of thugs lived inthe house we bought in 2007 and they were just as bad then. Multiple generations living there and just one job amoung them. Their old grandpa (probably younger than me, haha) supported them all. They lived like filthy pigs and we emptied 1.5 industrial dumpsters to clean out the house And the yard. Mainly the yardwherebtheynhad thrown used liquor bottles and dirty diapers for years. Pigs. Filthy. And criminals.
Where on earth do you live? This sounds like a dang nightmare!
i live in the urban core in St. Louis. My own neighborhood is yuppified with new $500,000 houses just built across the street from where I live. But we have property nearby where we have our main gardens. Gardens are on the bad edge of a transitional neighborhood, hence the cheap price, hence that's why we can affords houses with no tenants.
well, but the lack of plumbing/ heating thing is actually a St. Louis city wide issue. Very few people know this and would be shocked to know, but even today one of the grand old houses forming our signature neighborhood look, our brand so to speak, still lacks indoor heat. The guy who stays there moves in with his girlfriend during the winter.
Here's the image everone uses about our neighborhood and the house without heat is on far right: http://tinyurl.com/pcmxqcx
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Oh, sounds like a mixed bag. But you have a good set-up.
Here in Columbus, OH I know a handful of people who are speculating about the next "transitional" neighborhood. Some want to buy a city block's worth of houses "in transition," tear down the fences to combine yards, and have something of an intentional community/cooperative living situation. Interesting idea. Others worry that this will mean one of two things: Displacing the current residents (pricing them out ultimately) or speculating wrong and ending up in a neighborhood full of riff-raff.
According to the World Health Organization....
The age of 60 or 65, roughly equivalent to retirement ages in most developed countries, is said to be the beginning of old age.
60-I had no clue I was elderly now!! This whole conversation has me thinking...
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