Bicycling....

[Rogar]

I believe those EBikes should be outlawed, confiscated, the battery recycled, and the rest melted down as scrap metal. Yup. Anyone caught riding an EBike should be jailed with the dope peddlers and child molesters. Hope that helps you some.

I wonder if, in modern times of high anxiety and a polarized views of issues, if bike trail rage will will become a new term in line with road rage.

[iris lilies]

I wonder if, in modern times of high anxiety and a polarized views of issues, if bike trail rage will will become a new term in line with road rage.

For several years I walked to work and believe me I had rage at the bicyclists who snuck up behind me and passed me. If I decided to step in to the path we would’ve had a collision. Only one time did a bicyclist do what he was supposed to do and that was ring his bell to signal to me he was behind me.

If I had been injured in such an incident I would’ve sued his little bicycling butt. So yeah, I have no love for bicyclists on pedestrian used paths.

[sweetana3]

Would give way to a bell ringing bike on a trail but not on a sidewalk. We have dumb bike and electric scooter riders on the city sidewalks. I stand my ground. The scooters even have a large sign "Do not ride on sidewalks." printed right on the scooter. Sidewalk rage?

[Rogar]

If I had been injured in such an incident I would’ve sued his little bicycling butt. So yeah, I have no love for bicyclists on pedestrian used paths.

I suspect the additional traffic from faster and heavier bikes will eventually lead to accidents with injury, lawsuits and or other sorts of accidents on streets, and things will come to a head. "Pedestrian use" trails here are technically multiuse and there is not one group having privilege over another. Here, cyclists generally announce themselves before passing, but I agree even as a cyclist that there are some who think they are in the tour de France or something and are a hazard. There are as much a risk to me as to they are to walkers. I believe the solution is to have safe bike lanes on city streets and direct bike traffic away from "pedestrian trails". At least here in the big city that is slowly happening.

There are also plenty of sidewalks for walkers who don't want to share a "bike use path".

[frugal-one]

Here they are called recreational trails. I, personally, prefer them because they are out in nature and not on hard, hot concrete. It is ridiculous the number of bike lanes we have based on usage. The bike lanes are so wide it could easily be used for another lane of traffic.

[Rogar]

Here they are called recreational trails. I, personally, prefer them because they are out in nature and not on hard, hot concrete. It is ridiculous the number of bike lanes we have based on usage. The bike lanes are so wide it could easily be used for another lane of traffic.

In the city where they have offered rebates for eBike purchases the initiative is part of a clean air initiative to reduce car traffic and encourage bike traffic. As someone who has used bikes as a secondary transportation mode for decades, it's a mystery to me why so many people drive to places that are easy bike rides or even walking. So, I'm not so sure those bike lanes are a misuse of resources from an environmental standpoint, but our car culture is endemic and people are lazy.

Without making a study of it, I would be somewhat certain that there are major cities in Europe that have adapted to routine commuting by cycling with the use of bike lanes and trails. It's good for the environment and also for people's health.

[littlebittybobby]

Okay---There are bicyclists who are incompetent, because they don't "Ride Right". Those types ride on the sidewalks and other pedestrian byways; they ride on the wrong side of the road, when they ride on the roadway; they don't wear helmets, and they don't have lighting for night riding, and they break all the traffic laws that they are legally obligated to follow. The stereotype is having a stolen or yard sale department store bike with a rusty chain. If it is a road bike, they will turn the drop bars upright. These people are derelects and retards and scum. Or, they are teens with faux BMX bikes, who cross the roadway in traffic, and hop curbs and ride through parking lots putting everyone at-risk for an accident. The worst cyclists of all tend to be minorities. It may not be P.C./ to say so, but it is the truth. But yeah---putting electric MOTOR powered two-wheeled vehicles on paths intended for pedestrian and human-powered cycles is a huge mistake. All there is to it. I don't want them there, and yeah---if I see one unattended, I will intentionally deflate the tires, in an act of defiance. I was in that big box disaster I call "Worst Buy", and they had some ebikes for sale, and I hefted a couple of them and they were as heavy as a small CC motorcycle! In other news, I was in a pawn shop lately, and rescued a Lemond aluminum road bike, and a Schwinn Voyager from the 80's. Both neeed work, but when I'm bored this winter, instead of drive-n-eat-n-sit-n-watch, I'll get them rehabbed & put them up for sale, since a) I have enough bikes sand: B)they are a bit undersized, for littlebittymee. But, yeah---I just had to rescue them. Hope that helps you some. See my new shirt.2022-09-30 (10).jpg

[frugal-one]

In the city where they have offered rebates for eBike purchases the initiative is part of a clean air initiative to reduce car traffic and encourage bike traffic. As someone who has used bikes as a secondary transportation mode for decades, it's a mystery to me why so many people drive to places that are easy bike rides or even walking. So, I'm not so sure those bike lanes are a misuse of resources from an environmental standpoint, but our car culture is endemic and people are lazy.

Without making a study of it, I would be somewhat certain that there are major cities in Europe that have adapted to routine commuting by cycling with the use of bike lanes and trails. It's good for the environment and also for people's health.

Based on the minimal usage here, they are a waste of resources in that another lane could be used to reduce congestion. IMO not enough people utilize the bike lane to make them relevant.

[Tradd]

I’ve been seeing a lot of of stupid and dangerous behavior from cyclists. Part of my commute there is a wide asphalt paved trail parallel to the road. It’s used by cyclists and pedestrians. There are no signs prohibiting bike use. The problem are the bicyclists who decide to ride in the middle of the traffic lane where the vehicle speed limit is 45-50 mph. It’s also hilly. I’ve come over a hill and had to slam on the brakes due to a cyclist in the middle of the road. There’s no room to pass them as they’re smack dab in the middle. Laying on the horn does nothing. I’ve almost been rear ended by other cars when I’ve had to slow to a crawl because of the idiot bicyclist. This happens way to often.

[Rogar]

Based on the minimal usage here, they are a waste of resources in that another lane could be used to reduce congestion. IMO not enough people utilize the bike lane to make them relevant.

Perhaps there are regional differences in bike lane use. It does bring up the question of how much is minimal and what justifies their use. My home town has bike lanes that don't get much use and it's been an issue, but around here they are popular. One thing, not having safe bike lanes and trails is a pretty big detriment to cycle commuting or recreational use in general. I say build it and they will come. A program I saw on PBS said that having bike access within a mile of a home can increase it's property value. That's PBS, but there is probably something to it.

If bike lanes cause undue congestion of auto traffic I'd say there are engineering design or other problems.