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    Quote Originally Posted by early morning View Post
    Maybe. Not a fan of censorship. But to state the obvious - it wasn't censorship that led to Jan 6. So please, don't downplay the misinformation issue. There is MUCH to fear there, also. Historically, I believe (without extensively research, admittedly) lies and misinformation have led to much more evil than censorship has. We need to guard against both, IMHO.
    No, censorship is the greater evil than misinformation. Always and forever.

    When whichever idiot in the White House is controlling all information channels, we are doomed, that does not serve our populace.

    Twitter shutting down Donald Trump’s Twitter account was not the right thing to do. All that stuff then goes underground. Always and forever, let the wacky misinformation rise to the top where the sunshine hits it and we can all see it.

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    I don’t trust government approved narratives as any kind of solution. I don’t see a constructive role for a Ministry of Truth.
    I am not in disagreement with this. I do think legal channels have a part to play - as in the Dominion lawsuit. However, I see a difference between a government narrative and laws that attach penalties for causing deliberate harm by lying and deliberately promoting/providing misinformation.
    Always and forever, let the wacky misinformation rise to the top where the sunshine hits it and we can all see it.
    I see a major concern with the fact that we DON'T all see it, and often refuse to acknowledge it. I think you may be giving too many people too much credit. A few years ago, I would have agreed with you 100 percent. Now - not so sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by early morning View Post
    …I see a major concern with the fact that we DON'T all see it, and often refuse to acknowledge it. I think you may be giving too many people too much credit. A few years ago, I would have agreed with you 100 percent. Now - not so sure.
    I agree that we do not all see it, with “ it” meaning potentially problematic content. Even tho the mainstream media does—if not a great job, a job—in highlighting the problematic content they think we should all see as problematic.

    Another problem might be when we do not all draw the same conclusions from the “problematic” content. Some would consider that a BIG problem.

    In the end, offering up the information, the misinformation, the true facts and the truthy facts for consumption, that’s
    The best option for a free society.

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    Reason #371: New Mexico Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham

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    Quote Originally Posted by bae View Post
    Reason #371: New Mexico Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham
    It’s hard to see how this will withstand legal/constitutional scrutiny. Else what will prevent future hacks from declaring cars, cheeseburgers or leaf blowers to be “public health hazards”?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LDAHL View Post
    It’s hard to see how this will withstand legal/constitutional scrutiny. Else what will prevent future hacks from declaring cars, cheeseburgers or leaf blowers to be “public health hazards”?
    "Three teens killed themselves after reading snarky social media posts on MySpace. I have decided to ban MySpace from the Internet in New Mexico, due to public health hazards. Printing presses too."

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    Quote Originally Posted by bae View Post
    "Three teens killed themselves after reading snarky social media posts on MySpace. I have decided to ban MySpace from the Internet in New Mexico, due to public health hazards. Printing presses too."
    I read that the NM AG has said he would not defend the Governor against any resulting lawsuits, and that at least one Sheriff will not enforce the ban. It sort of restores one’s faith.

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    Mitt Romney just announced he will not run for another senatorial term. He is 76 years old. Time to make way for younger leaders, he says.

    I guess this is really a reason “ not to vote for Republicans” because they do not believe they are hale and hardy and age appropriate for the most important government positions on earth. Unlike those Democratic leaders…

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    Yes, Mitch McConnell is certainly the picture of hale and hardy good health. Even better than the svelt leader of the republicans who at 78 years old clocks in at a physically fit 215 lbs supposedly…

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    Quote Originally Posted by jp1 View Post
    Yes, Mitch McConnell is certainly the picture of hale and hardy good health. Even better than the svelt leader of the republicans who at 78 years old clocks in at a physically fit 215 lbs supposedly…
    I’m glad you are being served by such a robust nonagenarian.

    https://www.sfchronicle.com/politics...e-17079487.php

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