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    Quote Originally Posted by frugal-one View Post
    I am starting to believe the sky is falling. Look at the climate now? It is hard not to think otherwise unless you don't believe in climate change.
    I think you're talking about weather. The recent heat wave in the South and South/West is still less than it was in the entire decade of the 1930's, with 80% to 90% higher rates of anthropogenic greenhouse gases in the atmosphere now. The climate has changed dramatically over eons and what little change we've seen in modern times (although not in the last 8 to 10 years) doesn't seem to be a 'sky is falling' event.

    The head of the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change is even cautioning alarmists against saying such things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    I think you're talking about weather. The recent heat wave in the South and South/West is still less than it was in the entire decade of the 1930's, with 80% to 90% higher rates of anthropogenic greenhouse gases in the atmosphere now. The climate has changed dramatically over eons and what little change we've seen in modern times (although not in the last 8 to 10 years) doesn't seem to be a 'sky is falling' event.

    The head of the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change is even cautioning alarmists against saying such things.
    The problem is, the calamity is part of a series of planetary systems failures due to human activity. It's not just a CO2 number: it's wildlife habitat loss, raping of marine life, mass extinctions, desertification, exponential increase in extreme events. What if the sky is not quite falling? is it even ethical to continue smugly, business-as-usual, trashing the water, air and earth with all the hubris it takes to not blink an eye at the destruction?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    I think you're talking about weather. The recent heat wave in the South and South/West is still less than it was in the entire decade of the 1930's, with 80% to 90% higher rates of anthropogenic greenhouse gases in the atmosphere now. The climate has changed dramatically over eons and what little change we've seen in modern times (although not in the last 8 to 10 years) doesn't seem to be a 'sky is falling' event.

    The head of the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change is even cautioning alarmists against saying such things.
    My local weather reports and national news pretty much assigns the recent heat dome, or what ever it's called this time, to human related climate change. Arguing the points might belike beating a dead horse, but I'd bet this summer made some believers out of fence riders.

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    Whatever it is, the weather sure seems extreme in so many places the past few years. I agree with Catherine...it is all of the ways we continue to exploit and damage the earth that will affect us (and future generations) now and in the years ahead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frugal-one View Post
    I am starting to believe the sky is falling. Look at the climate now? It is hard not to think otherwise unless you don't believe in climate change.
    This has been the mildest summer here--in years of mild summers--in my memory. I don't doubt there are ongoing climate changes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    I think you're talking about weather. The recent heat wave in the South and South/West is still less than it was in the entire decade of the 1930's, with 80% to 90% higher rates of anthropogenic greenhouse gases in the atmosphere now. The climate has changed dramatically over eons and what little change we've seen in modern times (although not in the last 8 to 10 years) doesn't seem to be a 'sky is falling' event.

    The head of the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change is even cautioning alarmists against saying such things.

    No, climate. Just saw a program about the ocean temps rising and have been continuing to do so for many years. Some things are weather but what is happening is climate change. Obviously you are not a believer.

    https://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/ocean-warming/

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    Okay--good for global warming! High latitude la d masses can be used for habitation and food production. Fxxk the Polar Bears and other predators; they are useless and dangerous. See?

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