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    It's rare that I agree with anything trump has said. But this statement of his from July 2018 is something I can agree with:

    "As the head of the executive branch and Commander in Chief, I have a unique, Constitutional responsibility to protect the Nation’s classified information, including by controlling access to it…. More broadly, the issue of [a former executive branch official’s] security clearance raises larger questions about the practice of former officials maintaining access to our Nation’s most sensitive secrets long after their time in Government has ended. Such access is particularly inappropriate when former officials have transitioned into highly partisan positions and seek to use real or perceived access to sensitive information to validate their political attacks. Any access granted to our Nation’s secrets should in furtherance of national, not personal, interests."

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    Most optimistic:
    Sununu - until he dropped out

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogar View Post
    I wonder what the GOP will campaign on. Seems like usually it's been the economy or some war, neither of which appear too significant these days. Even gas seems slightly acceptable and inflation is relatively tame. No doubt there will be the usual demonizing of the dems and Biden's age. I think Pence mentioned something about entitlement revision, which sort of breaks down to Medicare and social security. Abortion doesn't seem too popular of an issue and there doesn't seem to be much on the table about taking people's guns and ammo away. Maybe defunding the DOJ?
    I think most voters might take issue with your assertion that “inflation is relatively tame”. I also think the push to move individual college debt to the general tax paying public won’t be all that popular with the general tax paying public. The general laxity of the Democrats concerning crime and our porous border could also be fertile fields to plow. Of course, it would be helpful for Democrats to identify with reparations

    I don’t think that things are going so swimmingly under the Democrats that the GOP has no issues to run on. Taking Trump off the board would do wonders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LDAHL View Post
    I think most voters might take issue with your assertion that “inflation is relatively tame”. I also think the push to move individual college debt to the general tax paying public won’t be all that popular with the general tax paying public. The general laxity of the Democrats concerning crime and our porous border could also be fertile fields to plow. Of course, it would be helpful for Democrats to identify with reparations

    I don’t think that things are going so swimmingly under the Democrats that the GOP has no issues to run on. Taking Trump off the board would do wonders.
    also, Roger mentions no war being a big deal. I think 75 billion in tax dollars for Ukraine is a pretty big deal, not to mention the threat of nuclear annihilation or even the lesser never ending U.S. involvement at some level.

    “ taking Trump off the board “it’s a funny turn of phrase. I fear this court action will inflame his followers, so I prefer my fantasy heart attack scenario. It’s so much cleaner and cheaper for the taxpayers.
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    I see that Rachel Maddow has suggested that the DOJ should dismiss all charges against Trump in exchange for him dropping out of the Presidential race. I wonder if that hasn't been the goal all along?
    "Things should be made as simple as possible, but not one bit simpler." ~ Albert Einstein

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    I am definitely not in favor of charges being dropped for trump. He deserves to go to prison! I wouldn’t shed a tear if that soulless devil had the big one. I wish the democrats had someone younger that was a viable candidate as I think Biden needs to retire.

    The economy is a big issue here as prices are very high. I am definitely against forgiving student loans and talk of reparations is one of the stupidest things I’ve heard in a long time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    I see that Rachel Maddow has suggested that the DOJ should dismiss all charges against Trump in exchange for him dropping out of the Presidential race. I wonder if that hasn't been the goal all along?
    I wonder what her rationale was for such an idea. If the evidence is anywhere near as strong as the indictment suggests letting trump off the hook seems like a really bad idea, both from a "we are a nation of laws and no one is above them" standpoint, and from a "don't politicize the DOJ" standpoint. Especially since on the latter point doing this would hand the 2024 election to the republicans. Thankfully the DOJ doesn't take advice from political pundits.

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    Okay---I am 100% in favor of dropping all trumped-up charges against President Trump, in exchange for the resignation of Raging Maddow. She/He/It Maddfow will then emigrate to Saudi Arrabbia, and be beheaded. Fair enough. All in favor, say aye. Thank Mee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jp1 View Post
    I wonder what her rationale was for such an idea. If the evidence is anywhere near as strong as the indictment suggests letting trump off the hook seems like a really bad idea, both from a "we are a nation of laws and no one is above them" standpoint, and from a "don't politicize the DOJ" standpoint. Especially since on the latter point doing this would hand the 2024 election to the republicans. Thankfully the DOJ doesn't take advice from political pundits.

    well, Hillary was certainly let off the hook for her violation of national security with her home server set up and her elimination of thousands of messages, so it’s not like there’s no precedent for it.

    I just think it’s interesting that Democrats Rachel Maddow and apparently Joe Biden who must be backing this Trump federal court action, consider him enough of a threat that they want to smear him or eliminate him.
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    Please do tell us how hillary was sharing state secrets with people they shouldn't be and how she was conspiring to hide the fact that she had stolen stuff. I realize false whataboutism is the current republican talking point but geez, you people need to get out of your bubbles and realize how stupid that talking point sounds.

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