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    I went to Europe 4 times between 2002 and 2015 and it was much less crowded than my last 2 trips in the last two years. Those first 4 trips were on our own and not rushed at all. We spent 2 weeks in Rome and many great days just wandering down side streets and visiting the churches, historical buildings that we ran into besides the well known ones on our agenda.

    Now being older my friend and I took a tour both times which we enjoyed but the experience was very different. I used to say I would never take a trip to see 4 countries in 11 days but that’s exactly what we did. Plus being older who knows how many more times one can travel so since the countries were all close I saw them all which were on my bucket list.

    The last two trips my friend went to places she had seen in the past so I told her to pick where she wanted to go and we would do it. She picked a tour to France in 25. That’s my last overseas trip.

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    Besides work, I've only travelled to outdoor recreate or to see friends and family. Some of that slowed during Covid and never returned. What I suppose is traditional tourist travel has never really appealed to me, although I've been to some amazing museums and the Smithsonian is on a bucket list for a revisit. Something about the whole airport, motel/or what ever, restaurants, shop browsing routine. I've worked in tourist destinations and so many of the tourists seem to walk around with blank faces to their next attraction.

    "Eco-tourism" has always seemed like a contradiction of terms and that the whales, dolphins, tortoises, and wildebeest should just be left alone, although I'm sure there is a flip side to that argument and exceptions.

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    The great thing about Europe is that things are so close together, so I like to stay in one city and take day trips out to other areas. You come home at night in the same hotel, where all all your stuff is already unpacked.

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    I am thankful we travelled when younger. We decided to go to places we figured might be difficult to do when we got older. Our thought was we can stay in the US when older because it is easy to travel here and we would get senior discounts. We have not yet been to the continents of Antartica or Australia (was planned but COVID put the kabash on it). As soon as we get our housing situation in order (hopefully in a few months), we will continue to travel! We did plan to visit friends in Canada for a few days next month but saw a flight attendant strike is in the works!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogar View Post
    Besides work, I've only travelled to outdoor recreate or to see friends and family. Some of that slowed during Covid and never returned. What I suppose is traditional tourist travel has never really appealed to me, although I've been to some amazing museums and the Smithsonian is on a bucket list for a revisit. Something about the whole airport, motel/or what ever, restaurants, shop browsing routine. I've worked in tourist destinations and so many of the tourists seem to walk around with blank faces to their next attraction.

    "Eco-tourism" has always seemed like a contradiction of terms and that the whales, dolphins, tortoises, and wildebeest should just be left alone, although I'm sure there is a flip side to that argument and exceptions.


    My feelings exactly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogar View Post
    Besides work, I've only travelled to outdoor recreate or to see friends and family. Some of that slowed during Covid and never returned. What I suppose is traditional tourist travel has never really appealed to me, although I've been to some amazing museums and the Smithsonian is on a bucket list for a revisit. Something about the whole airport, motel/or what ever, restaurants, shop browsing routine. I've worked in tourist destinations and so many of the tourists seem to walk around with blank faces to their next attraction.

    "Eco-tourism" has always seemed like a contradiction of terms and that the whales, dolphins, tortoises, and wildebeest should just be left alone, although I'm sure there is a flip side to that argument and exceptions.
    They dont walk around with blank faces, they walk around with that 4” x 8” device plastered in frnt of their face, making it difficult for other to get ip close to see anything.

    I was perturbed the last time I was in the art museum here. Dodging the cameras/space hogs was an annoyance. Do these people really need a photo of everything? I think not.

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    Living in Florida, touring Jan-March is a desirable plan for seniors. Some have seasonal houses, but many rent. The problem arising is Air B&B's. With little screening, parties and large groups are renting for a few days or a week and make a ruckus, litter and have loud parties. Not so great for the neighbors. There are several bike fests in Florida, and groups will Air B&B and race motorcycles with loud drinking parties occurring. And spring breakers are a treat. Large companies are reportedly coming in to purchase multiple properties which is driving our real estate even higher for young families.
    My hometown, on the Atlantic Ocean was Idyllic but now with many houses turning into apartments, huge hotels being built on the waterfront and expensive restaurants it is not such a friendly p!ace to live. Same with DH's town on a lake. Traffic is ridiculous in all places.

    Amsterdam and Venice are among the very overcrowded this season, and they are trying to figure out what to do about shoulder to shoulder tourists packing the streets. Public drunkeness, crime, noise, public urination and general disorderly conduct follows the crowds.

    But can a city limit rentals when the horses out of the barn?

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    The problem with parties at Airbnb‘s is universal nationwide. It’s all over St. Louis. It’s not even out of towners necessarily, groups rent an Airbnb for Friday night and Saturday night and just have giant loud parties that go on for 48 hours. They’re now featuring hot Rod and gun play downtown, so that’s pretty much turned into no man’s land.

    Sure there’s all kinds of things cities can do to restrict short term rentals, but they have to be willing to make those ordinances and more importantly, enforce them. Nothing in the St. Louis is enforced so we could have all the laws in the world and it would not matter.

    I’m grateful that my condo building has a “no rental” policy. It would be a nightmare there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
    They dont walk around with blank faces, they walk around with that 4” x 8” device plastered in frnt of their face, making it difficult for other to get ip close to see anything.

    I was perturbed the last time I was in the art museum here. Dodging the cameras/space hogs was an annoyance. Do these people really need a photo of everything? I think not.
    No kidding. The last time we were in Paris we went to the louvre. The Mona Lisa was absurd. EVERYONE felt the need to get a selfie with her. So ridiculous. Thankfully there is plenty of other delightful stuff in that museum to look at. It’s such a massive place I could spend weeks just going day after day and look at something different every visit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jp1 View Post
    No kidding. The last time we were in Paris we went to the louvre. The Mona Lisa was absurd. EVERYONE felt the need to get a selfie with her. So ridiculous. Thankfully there is plenty of other delightful stuff in that museum to look at. It’s such a massive place I could spend weeks just going day after day and look at something different every visit.
    Ditto! We've spent the better part of a day at the Louvre on three separate visits and another half day or so at the Musee d'Orsay each time. If you return make sure d'Orsay is on your list, oh, and the catacombs are worth a few hours of your time although they're probably a one and done excursion.

    We'll probably never visit the city again, but if we do you can bet those museums will definitely be visited again.
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