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    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
    are you kidding? Trump did a lot. That does not mean I am saying you should like the things he did, I would never expect thst.

    Just randomly, My memory was jogged
    about one Trump accomplishment today, raising the IRS standard deduction by a whopping amount. I like that, that had impact in my life.

    Don’t forget all of the free $$$ distributed during Covid.

    also random, he signed legislation that was some sort of animal welfare bill my pet rescue friends noted although that kind if thing doesn't register much with me because I find it…usually poorly planned and yet another gumnt mandate that does not really do much.
    Let's not forget that he also avoided nuclear holocaust with N. Korea. I'll give to him for some covid issues later on but after he told everyone to attend Easter Sunday services before vaccinations when it was running rampant with dead people stacking up like firewood.

    He obviously did something as president for four years. How lasting, positive and significant are up for debate, but Politico takes a slightly objective view.

    https://www.politico.com/news/magazi...nalysis-451479
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    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
    I heard the Trump campaign sold $7 million in merchandise with his mug shot.
    Which may or may not have been a mistake :-)

    https://nypost.com/2023/09/05/trump-...mugshot-merch/

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    Quote Originally Posted by bae View Post
    Which may or may not have been a mistake :-)

    https://nypost.com/2023/09/05/trump-...mugshot-merch/
    Karma is sweet:

    "But legal scholars say that money may rightfully belong to the Fulton County Sheriff’s Office, which took the photo, as US copyright law stipulates that the law enforcement agency that takes a mugshot is the legal owner of it."
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    Ooops! Haha.

    well then I guess we can all look forward to yet another court case, the copyright lawsuit. Yawn.
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    Portuguese John, you sound like my DH--he said he would vote for either Trump or Sanders, because they are not afraid to make enemies and distance themselves from the political machine, despite their being tied to it. I have always been pro-Sanders and anti-Trump because of what's important to me policy-wise, not just because they both come off as political outsiders.

    Trump is a showman, and a narcissist, and that combination scares me.
    Yes, it's exactly why I like both, and I'd vote for any of them.

    If I had to choose, Bernie all the way, I support all his polices, can't say the same about Trump, I'd say 50% are just populist.

    And yes, Trump is a showman, a narcissist, no doubt, although, the alternatives are incapable two-faced people, I prefer the devil I can see. It's very hard nowadays to find a proficient-experienced intelligent and cunning individual that has the image and fluency, that can endure the stress and pressure of the hard task of making global decisions that can impact the planet's direction, almost no one is capable.

    If you want to find the better fit for a position of power, find someone who doesn't want it but is capable. There were not many cases in history, some in the ancient China, given to Taoist hermits, Xo You, who refused, and some in Rome that I know, not sure in Greece. In Rome, when a general won a great battle, he had a slave that whispered, all the way: "You're just a man, and you're going to die", it's known as memento morri. The highest form of humility is not getting over yourself, you come from dust, and to dust you will return, like everyone else, in the old days that was the ideal, not today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
    Ooops! Haha.

    well then I guess we can all look forward to yet another court case, the copyright lawsuit. Yawn.
    Seems to me like making $7 million in profit by stealing someone else's intellectual property might have, in a previous age, risen to the level of "a big deal".

    I wonder also if Georgia has any "Son of Sam"-type laws on the books, prohibiting profiting from a crime? It might seem that selling merch with mugshots could trip over those sorts of regulations.

    But as Trump said, "I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters, OK?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by bae View Post
    Seems to me like making $7 million in profit by stealing someone else's intellectual property might have, in a previous age, risen to the level of "a big deal".

    I wonder also if Georgia has any "Son of Sam"-type laws on the books, prohibiting profiting from a crime? It might seem that selling merch with mugshots could trip over those sorts of regulations.


    But as Trump said, "I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters, OK?"
    I don’t mean it is a mInor thing but when compared to an attempt to overthrow our government, well yeah, I cannot get too excited about it ‘tho 7 million is quite a lot to go after and maybe Georgia taxpayers would come out ahead in a lawsuit.

    But people take copyright infringement casually. heck we have the verboten image on this very thread. Is it exempt here as Fair Use? Who knows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bae View Post

    I wonder also if Georgia has any "Son of Sam"-type laws on the books, prohibiting profiting from a crime? It might seem that selling merch with mugshots could trip over those sorts of regulations.
    Has he been convicted of a crime in Georgia? Also, how does an individual's "right to publicity" impact Trump's usage of his own image?

    Edited to add another question: If a rival politician or party used the image for fundraising purposes, should those funds be returned to the Georgia Sheriff's office under the theory that only the photographer may profit from someone else's likeness?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    Has he been convicted of a crime in Georgia?
    Not yet. Thus my use of the word "could".

    As to your second question, there you have two competing interests. Georgia may own this specific image, perhaps prohibiting Trump from using it, as Georgia likely has the copyright. However, Georgia may not be able to sell merch with the image and profit from it.

    This sort of thing is why I get signed model releases when I'm taking photos for profit. The PPA provides all sorts of useful discussion of these issues, and sample contracts/releases, along with decent equipment insurance for a small and reasonable yearly fee.

    (The more interesting questions here concern the "Son of Sam" laws, and the 1st Amendment, there has been much consternation over the years.)

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    My understanding was that most states have “open records” laws that would allow publication of that sort of image. In my state, the exceptions to that would be juvenile criminal records, health information or the home address of police officers.

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