Let the debate begin?

[catherine]

Since you have an opinion on this Project 2025 thing I'm guessing you've read it? Could you give those of us who haven't a synopsis?

I've read it.

Interestingly, the site has already taken down the easy-to-read policy statement that I read. They have replaced it with an entire book, but you can read it online. Start on page 69.

https://www.project2025.org/policy/

Actually, I was wrong. You can read a summary at the same url, under the book itself

[Tybee]

Thanks, Catherine. At first glance, it looks like there are around forty authors of the chapters, and only six of them are women.

[Rogar]

Since you have an opinion on this Project 2025 thing I'm guessing you've read it? Could you give those of us who haven't a synopsis?

I have only read summaries. This gets to the main points, is short, from a reliable source, and easy to read. It has four major proposed groups of initiatives. The original document is over 900 pages. There is a link to it in the article for those who need a little help falling asleep.



https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c977njnvq2do

[LDAHL]

Why are people on the left pushing Project 2025 so desperately hard? It’s just another think tank document. Why not brandish the actual GOP platform? Or why not just pay a guy to concoct a “dossier”, as they have in the past?

Is it a better weapon to bolster the “fascist” name calling strategy?

[Alan]

Why are people on the left pushing Project 2025 so desperately hard?

It seems pretty obvious to me. It's something that politicians and pundits can brand as a "threat to America", knowing that very few people will read it and the majority will declare it an evil plot by Republicans because their favorite TV propagandists told them so.

[bae]

Why not brandish the actual GOP platform?

At least they bothered to *have* a platform this time:

https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/docu...party-platform

[Rogar]

It seems pretty obvious to me. It's something that politicians and pundits can brand as a "threat to America", knowing that very few people will read it and the majority will declare it an evil plot by Republicans because their favorite TV propagandists told them so.

I suspect there are many republicans who have not read or know anything about it either. Even Trump says he's never heard of it. So, do we really know if what's in 2025 really differs from the party platform, but just by a different name. My basic reads that I find objectionable is the conversion of thousands of civil servants to political appointments, i.e., Trumps revenge. Denial of human caused climate change and a step back into the fossil fuel economy, such as Trump's dill baby drill. References to leaving abortions as a state ruling, which we already know about. I didn't see it in the summary but have previously read about some sort of a 2025 reversion to a Christian state by putting the Christian bible above the constitution, which we already see in certain states, and which I have a problem with and denies the separation of church and state. More tariffs, more isolation, plug the border. I wonder how people would feel watching us hang Ukraine out to dry and a Russian take over, if that would really happen.

I think J.D. was an excellent choice to compliment Trump. I have seen him in an interview and he is very articulate and can help give some rationality to Trump's ramblings. He's young and pretty much an American success story, unlike Trump's family money. An ex-marine that served overseas. The dems should take a valuable lesson in bring up some fresh new without old baggage. He claims honesty, but denies the 2020 election outcome, as in the Big Lie, as is a climate denier. He will be a good addition to Trump's team and possibly not a mindless yes man minion. I just disagree with his basic politics. He's a Trump clone in sheep's clothing.

I could add on a slightly different topic, that I have found Trump's narrow escape from the bullet that could have take his life as an act of God and references to him being the "chosen one" as down right dangerous. I recall the story of the natives thinking Cortez was the bearded white god of prophesy, and that did not have a good outcome.

[Tybee]

I'm trying to read the platform and the grammatical errors are setting my teeth on edge.

It reminds me of the Ray Bradbury story where the guy goes back in time to the dinosaur hunt and disturbs a leaf and the way he knows that civilization is screwed and the fascists have taken over is that the signs are misspelled when he gets back.

[LDAHL]

So racist fascist theocratic and ungrammatical too? Have we reached peak name calling yet?

[Tybee]

So racist fascist theocratic and ungrammatical too? Have we reached peak name calling yet?

So pointing out that someone is mauling the language is name calling? Goodness.