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    Quote Originally Posted by LDAHL View Post
    You know who thinks like you? Donald Trump.
    You are fooling yourself if you think otherwise! See post #307

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    Oh yes, I've always been and will always be a republicationator. I'm unapologetic about my desire for smaller government and greater personal liberty and while my party has been slowly inching towards a Democratic themed governing philosophy I still find Republicanism to be the better of two bad choices. The Democratic Party's social fascism tendencies on top of their desire to control rather than serve the populace scares me.
    I would rebuild both parties from scratch if I had the chance. Or, preferrably throw them both out, as well as our economic system. If I could trust all human beings, I would become an anarchist. But unfortunately, while most of us don't need Nanny G., a lot of us are too dangerous to trust with our own kind for the common good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogar View Post
    Trump is in his own party of old people with mental problems, but in some ways he does represent the traditional GOP, which is basically lower taxes for the wealthy and big business, deregulation of government regulations, and downsizing or decentralizing of the federal government. Trump has his own nefarious ways, but the dems have not given much of an alternative for those measures and represent their own traditional values. Among my conservative friends, the numbers of which seem to have diminished in the Trump era, I often hear that they don't like Trump, but like his policies. Or in my words, the end justifies the means, what ever they are.

    It would be nice if Cheney got an appointment in the Harris administration if things turn out that way.
    Trump is no conservative. He is a philosophically unmoored opportunist. He’s not interested in small government. He just thinks he can direct big government more effectively because he’s so much smarter than everyone else. He’s not interested in free markets. He thinks prosperity can be managed through industrial policy and trade wars. He is as contemptuous of constitutional limits on executive power as any recent Democratic president, and is every bit as eager to pander using taxpayer money.

    Contrary to the more perfervid rhetoric of the left, he’s no Hitler. But he’s sure as Hell no Reagan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by catherine View Post
    I would rebuild both parties from scratch if I had the chance. Or, preferrably throw them both out, as well as our economic system. If I could trust all human beings, I would become an anarchist. But unfortunately, while most of us don't need Nanny G., a lot of us are too dangerous to trust with our own kind for the common good.
    OK. We know what you are against. But what are you for?

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    And yet the mainstream media has only been wringing their hands over another candidate's possible mental decline.

    Questioner:

    “If you win in November,” a panelist asked, “can you commit to prioritizing legislation to make child care affordable and if so, what specific piece of legislation will you advance?”

    Trump's response:

    “Well, I would do that, and we’re sitting down — you know, I was, uh, somebody, we had Sen. Marco Rubio [(R-Fla.)] and my daughter, Ivanka, was so, uh, impactful on that issue. It’s a very important issue.

    But I think when you talk about the kind of numbers that I’m talking about, that — because child care is child care. It’s, couldn’t — you know, it’s something, you have to have it. In this country, you have to have it.

    But when you talk about those numbers compared to the kind of numbers that I’m talking about by taxing foreign nations at levels that they’re not used to but they’ll get used to it very quickly. And it’s not going to stop them from doing business with us, but they’ll have a very substantial tax when they send product into our country.

    Those numbers are so much bigger than any numbers that we’re talking about, including child care, that it’s gonna take care. We’re gonna have — I, I look forward to having no deficits within a fairly short period of time. Coupled with, uh, the reductions that I told you about on waste and fraud and all of the other things that are going on in our country — because I have to say with child care, I want to stay with child care, but those numbers are small relative to the kind of economic numbers that I’m talking about, including growth.

    But growth also headed up by what the plan is that I just, uh, that I just told you about. We’re gonna be taking in trillions of dollars, and as much as child care is talked about as being expensive, it’s, relatively speaking, not very expensive compared to the kind of numbers we’ll be taking in.

    We’re going to make this into an incredible country that can afford to take care of its people and then we’ll worry about the rest of the world. Let’s help other people. But we’re gonna take care of our country first. This is about America first. It’s about: Make America great again. We have to do it, because right now we’re a failing nation. So we’ll take care of it. Thank you. Very good question.”

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    Watching the debate. Kamala is highly amused at Orange Man and it’s entertaining to watch her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tradd View Post
    Watching the debate. Kamala is highly amused at Orange Man and it’s entertaining to watch her.
    I’m not watching it, but if she can pull that off for the entire debate, subtleytreating him like a joke, that’s probably a good tactical stance.
    be respectful but amused, Kamala.

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    She tossed out something I wasn’t aware of. That we currently have no soldiers in war zones, for the first time in this century.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jp1 View Post
    She tossed out something I wasn’t aware of. That we currently have no soldiers in war zones, for the first time in this century.
    I wasn’t aware of that either.

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    Jonathan Karl is a mediocre journalist. Post debate Vance is claiming that Harris doesn’t have a plan for making groceries affordable and instead of asking Vance what the (nonexistent) trump plan for that is he went on a random aside question.

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