The Media and how it shapes world views and election outcomes

[frugal-one]

I understood the New York case to be the weakest of the four, but that Trump couldn’t appeal until after he was sentenced. So no way to overturn the conviction until after the political benefit of calling him a felon expired. Timing is everything.

disgusting

[Alan]

After listening to the hearings, it was/is evident that he is a “bad actor”.

I'm glad to know you listened to the hearings, I didn't and as a result I've been unable to find out what crime was used to elevate a misdemeanor to a felony, 34 times. Could you help me out?

[frugal-one]

I'm glad to know you listened to the hearings, I didn't and as a result I've been unable to find out what crime was used to elevate a misdemeanor to a felony, 34 times. Could you help me out?

You should have watched. Obviously you did not want to hear what was found. It went on for days. You are capable of delving into all the evidence.

[Alan]

You should have watched. Obviously you did not want to hear what was found. It went on for days. You are capable of delving into all the evidence.

So, you don't know the answer either?

[frugal-one]

So, you don't know the answer either?

See #33. If you had watched,you would have had your answer. And now you are still too lazy to do your own research OR most likely, don’t really want answers.

[Alan]

See #33. If you had watched,you would have had your answer. And now you are still too lazy to do your own research OR most likely, don’t really want answers.

LOL, I've always known the answer, it is NO ONE KNOWS. That's an important point because in order to elevate a misdemeanor to a felony the misdemeanor charge must have been committed with the intent to commit or conceal another crime. The prosecution and judge allowed the jurors, on an individual basis, to link the misdemeanor to one of three POSSIBLE crimes, none of which Trump had ever been convicted or even charged with. The jurors were also advised that they would not need to reveal which POSSIBLE crime they individually or collectively chose during their deliberations.

I've never heard of such a thing and the general consensus among legal scholars is that the conviction will not survive an appeal due to this as well as a few other procedural issues. That's why I used the "manufactured" label, which you objected to, as it appears to me that the true purpose of the trial was to label an undesirable political candidate with the "felon" label in hopes of destroying a political career. Of course, the fact that so many people saw through this sham conviction did exactly the opposite and resulted in every person involved with, or who cheered along this travesty, being at least in-directly responsible for Trump's party nomination and ultimate electoral victory, and the funny part is, you don't even realize it.

[frugal-one]

LOL, I've always known the answer, it is NO ONE KNOWS. That's an important point because in order to elevate a misdemeanor to a felony the misdemeanor charge must have been committed with the intent to commit or conceal another crime. The prosecution and judge allowed the jurors, on an individual basis, to link the misdemeanor to one of three POSSIBLE crimes, none of which Trump had ever been convicted or even charged with. The jurors were also advised that they would not need to reveal which POSSIBLE crime they individually or collectively chose during their deliberations.

I've never heard of such a thing and the general consensus among legal scholars is that the conviction will not survive an appeal due to this as well as a few other procedural issues. That's why I used the "manufactured" label, which you objected to, as it appears to me that the true purpose of the trial was to label an undesirable political candidate with the "felon" label in hopes of destroying a political career. Of course, the fact that so many people saw through this sham conviction did exactly the opposite and resulted in every person involved with, or who cheered along this travesty, being at least in-directly responsible for Trump's party nomination and ultimate electoral victory, and the funny part is, you don't even realize it.

I rest my case. You are talking in generalities because you did not do the “due diligence” to make your own thought out opinion.

[Alan]

I rest my case. You are talking in generalities because you did not do the “due diligence” to make your own thought out opinion.

OK, thanks for playing, it's been fun.

[happystuff]

May I suggest this thread be moved to Politics?

[ToomuchStuff]

May I suggest this thread be moved to Politics?

Unfortunately this whole site is politics now days. Way different then what it started as and very disappointing.