Let the deportations begin?

[LDAHL]

Maybe Bezos will buy Fox.

Wrangling the divas at the Washington Post and the prima donnas at Fox would be a challenge worthy of his mettle.

[LDAHL]

Rogan is having fun with the ladies of The View.. One of them claimed Joe Rogan believes in dragons. This was immediately following her statement praising her own crew on The View for being serious journalists who never tell lies. That was in the same segment where Sunny what’s her name had to read a “ legal note” Correcting some lie she had told earlier about Matt Gaetz. I’m not making this up! These people are nuts.

so Rogan immediately changed his Twitter byline to “believer in dragons” and he is riffing on this new identity quite a bit.

When Old Lady Legacy media goes after new media, it’s never a good outcome for the old lady.

It’s like he has his own version of “OK Boomer”.

The View was never much on my radar until this most recent election. I was aware of them as a sort of woke haven on daytime TV, but never paid that much attention. Then in the lead up to the recent election my various feeds began filling up with clips of them saying odd things. They seem to fill the same ecological niche on the right as that old reliable “Fox News Talking Points” did for the left.

[Rogar]

I like what Tom Homan said on the matter: “If he’s willing to go, I’m willing to send him”. I did hear that the mayor walked back his promise to oppose the feds with local cops.

It looks like there will be an overabundance of histrionics concerning illegal immigration over the next year or two.

If I remember from the last Trump regime of promised deportations and his medieval wall, rounding up of any purported illegals is the sole responsibility of the Feds and localities can resist by not providing help from their police agencies, facilities such as jails and the sharing of information. That seemed like a legal way of resisting last time around and maybe how sanctuary cities got started in the first place? Whether that will hold for the new world order is another issue.

The Denver mayor mentioned pulling children out of schools and separating families. How it all goes down is yet to be seen, the the enormity of what Trump says he will do on his first day is logistically improbable even in longer time spans, but I imagine both of the mayor's fears are very possible.

[LDAHL]

If I remember from the last Trump regime of promised deportations and his medieval wall, rounding up of any purported illegals is the sole responsibility of the Feds and localities can resist by not providing help from their police agencies, facilities such as jails and the sharing of information. That seemed like a legal way of resisting last time around and maybe how sanctuary cities got started in the first place? Whether that will hold for the new world order is another issue.

The Denver mayor mentioned pulling children out of schools and separating families. How it all goes down is yet to be seen, the the enormity of what Trump says he will do on his first day is logistically improbable even in longer time spans, but I imagine both of the mayor's fears are very possible.

I think we will be hearing a lot of overheated rhetoric in the immediate future. Illegal immigration was such a winning issue for Trump, it’s hard to picture him moderating his tone in office. There seems to be a sizable portion of the public that sees mass deportation as a reasonable response to mass illegal immigration. Whether that remains true if it actually happens is anyone’s guess.

The “resistance” politicians striking heroic poses now, and painting lurid pictures of Gestapo raids and weeping children may run up against reduced federal funding and voter dissatisfaction if they actually follow through.

Given our limited capacity to perform deportations, I suspect what we will see in practice is a somewhat ramped up version of the efforts already being made, and probably less waving-through into “temporary protected status” than before. But with an increased decibel level.

[Tradd]

I’m all in favor of it. Why should people think they can just walk into the US without consequences? If someone wanted to cross the border going south, Mexico would kick you out on your ear if you didn’t have the proper paperwork, required financial resources, etc.

[Rogar]

I’m all in favor of it. Why should people think they can just walk into the US without consequences? If someone wanted to cross the border going south, Mexico would kick you out on your ear if you didn’t have the proper paperwork, required financial resources, etc.

I think there are two problems with different solutions. Allowing people to come into the country illegally is one and has been handled poorly for along time. What to do with people here illegally, but have been here for years or even generations and might have important jobs for our economy and in work our own citizens would be reluctant to take, even at a higher wage. Food services, agriculture, construction, cement work, roofing, etc. If Donald starts with what he calls criminals it's not even going to put a dent in the 13 million or so that are here (he's claimed a much higher but probably false number). So what to do with the other, say 12 million? I don't see where even any start of a mass deportation can work logistically and without an economic disruption. Deportation may be a part of an answer, but it's not going to solve everything and I'm not so sure it is the right thing to do ethically on such a scale, especially with consideration for children who have been here a while or grown up here and for families.

A best solution as I see it is to give some of these people a path to citizenship or at least a way to work here legally under certain terms of duration and registration and without some complicated process and long wait. And an expeditious way seek asylum form oppression. No doubt some should be returned.

Of course Donald may just be bluffing to slow down immigration out of fear or to appeal to his base to win the election. Or some sort of deal scheme yet to be revealed. He promised something similar his last go around and after a while people forgot or it was over shadowed by the Covid epidemic.

Deporting people isn't free. Overhead, manpower, detention facilities with medical facilities and food, paperwork, transportation, etc. The figure I've seen around is $15,000 per person but it's probably a difficult number to estimate. But using that figure times ten million or so it gets expensive.

[frugal-one]

Rogan is having fun with the ladies of The View.. One of them claimed Joe Rogan believes in dragons. This was immediately following her statement praising her own crew on The View for being serious journalists who never tell lies. That was in the same segment where Sunny what’s her name had to read a “ legal note” Correcting some lie she had told earlier about Matt Gaetz. I’m not making this up! These people are nuts.

so Rogan immediately changed his Twitter byline to “believer in dragons” and he is riffing on this new identity quite a bit.

When Old Lady Legacy media goes after new media, it’s never a good outcome for the old lady.

Can’t trust anything you see on Fox News. They paid big bucks because they were pedaling lies!

I believe there will be editing of news sources after trump gets into office. He has promised retribution to those who spoke out against him. Autocracy here we come!