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    I-9s were supposedly to do the same. There are workarounds apparently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LDAHL View Post
    Wasn’t E-verify going to help stem the tide of illegal immigration by making it difficult to seek employment here? Has it not been implemented or enforced? That would seem to be a fairly useful tool if used right.
    I picture e-verify used by employers to confirm their prospective employees are somehow a citizen or here legally. My impressions is that immigrants who are here by some legal means would not be deported. It seems like a good idea, but would not help to find the illegals they wish to purge the American population of?
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    Quote Originally Posted by frugal-one View Post
    Raids on restaurants and meat plants have routinely been done. This is nothing new.
    The large packing plant in my region has been raided by ICE at lest a few times. My guess is that another raid might turn up a few illegals, but the company is pretty careful in verifying they have the required documents. I suppose they face increasingly harsh penalties for ignoring their paperwork requirements from legal immigrants, so would be well to avoid?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogar View Post
    I picture e-verify used by employers to confirm their prospective employees are somehow a citizen or here legally. My impressions is that immigrants who are here by some legal means would not be deported. It seems like a good idea, but would not help to find the illegals they wish to purge the American population of?
    That’s true. But if it’s more difficult for people here illegally to get work here, I think that would reduce probably the primary reason for coming here. So many other countries seem to manage that well enough.

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    We've come a long way from Emma Lazarus' poem. I remember learning it in third grade in public school, back in the "old days" that the MAGA crowd likes to reference:
    "Give me your tired, your poor,Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,

    The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.

    Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,

    I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tybee View Post
    We've come a long way from Emma Lazarus' poem. I remember learning it in third grade in public school, back in the "old days" that the MAGA crowd likes to reference:
    "Give me your tired, your poor,Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,

    The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.

    Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,

    I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”

    Absolutely! Let’s go back to that time of immigrant entry! There were 40 million immigrants into this country between 1900 and 1930. Thirty years.

    There were 44 million immigrants in 2020 alone.

    And while we’re at it we can cut back on the government funded programs for immigrants to those provided back in 1900. . I’m OK with that, are you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
    Absolutely! Let’s go back to that time of immigrant entry! There were 40 million immigrants into this country between 1900 and 1930. Thirty years.

    There were 44 million immigrants in 2020 alone.

    And while we’re at it we can cut back on the government funded programs for immigrants to those provided back in 1900. . I’m OK with that, are you?
    I'm not okay with the kind of deportations you are okay with. I am not okay with children's lives being ruined, especially when they are my fellow American citizens born here as we were. I'm not okay with the viciousness with which the president-elect's people talk about other people.

    Not finding a lot of common ground, are we.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tybee View Post
    I'm not okay with the kind of deportations you are okay with. I am not okay with children's lives being ruined, especially when they are my fellow American citizens born here as we were. I'm not okay with the viciousness with which the president-elect's people talk about other people.

    Not finding a lot of common ground, are we.
    See, the problem with your argument and that of many here is that ya’ll constantly ascribe opinions and actions to me.

    I don’t even know what my opinion on details of deportation other than a very generalized “we as a society need to address people who are here illegally and also stem that tide.”

    It is far too big and complex a problem to be solved with impractical detailed ideas or big platitudes from me.

    But I seem to remember that every time we talk about illegal immigrants here, we come away with the agreement that the government needs to issue more temporary work Visas. so that is one step that seems OK to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
    Absolutely! Let’s go back to that time of immigrant entry! There were 40 million immigrants into this country between 1900 and 1930. Thirty years.

    There were 44 million immigrants in 2020 alone.

    And while we’re at it we can cut back on the government funded programs for immigrants to those provided back in 1900. . I’m OK with that, are you?
    Are you saying that 44 million immigrants entered the USA in 2020?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bae View Post
    Are you saying that 44 million immigrants entered the USA in 2020?
    One Googled source I read said that. I’ll go back and see if I can find it.

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