A folk hero or not?

[iris lilies]

The UK's NHS is generally ranked as one of the best public healthcare systems on earth. My daughter lives in the UK, and is quite a fan.

Yet, as they do not have unlimited resources, they ration care, and people suffer, and sometimes die, as a result.

Is that violence? Should the people who run it be executed by V-for-Vendetta folk-heroes on the streets of London? (I mean, they have irritating weapons policies in the UK, so the execution would probably have to be done with a narwhal tusk, but those are easy to come by there.)

I’m surprised to hear so much complaining about the increasingly broken public health system in Canada. Their long waits and non treatment plans are resulting in pain, worsening conditions, death.

edited to add: I mean I’m hearing complaints on other forums. Most Canadians seem to have like their healthcare system, but I think that outlook is changing, or has changed in recent years since Covid.

[Rogar]

Although I don't plan to read it, it would be interesting to hear an unbiased report on the book in question. Sales are probably surging. I imagine on one side there is a stream of hoaxers trying to scam the insurance industry with fake claims, which results in innocent honest people being punished. And there is greed on the other side of the issue in profits for stockholders. I think the model some conservatives would like to see is more privatization of health insurance whereby competition would favor good insurances and the opposite. In a system with few major players or possibly collusion of prices, it's unlikely to me.

I suppose in some religious dogma, killing seems to have some level of acceptability.

[bae]

This may be of interest:

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...ociety/680961/

Or, if you don't have access, the archive.is version:

https://archive.is/wiOzz

[Tradd]

I’m surprised to hear so much complaining about the increasingly broken public health system in Canada. Their long waits and non treatment plans are resulting in pain, worsening conditions, death.

I’m half Canadian. Grew up in the Detroit area. Even in the 80s, there were articles about Canadian OBs not taking new patients and women were coming to the US to have their kids because they could actually find a doctor.

Older relatives needing knee replacements had to wait 2-3 years. One knee was done, then 2-3 years for the next one.

A friend lives in New Brunswick. She tells me there is no such thing as getting a GP doctor appt. All the doctor’s offices are like urgent care here. You go and wait until you’re seen.

[gimmethesimplelife]

I’m half Canadian. Grew up in the Detroit area. Even in the 80s, there were articles about Canadian OBs not taking new patients and women were coming to the US to have their kids because they could actually find a doctor.

Older relatives needing knee replacements had to wait 2-3 years. One knee was done, then 2-3 years for the next one.

A friend lives in New Brunswick. She tells me there is no such thing as getting a GP doctor appt. All the doctor’s offices are like urgent care here. You go and wait until you’re seen.

I have to admit that Canadian health care has taken a dive, yes, and rationing is nothing to celebrate. Neither, however, are patient deaths due to AI denying patient legitimate patient claims in the US. The United States of America has absolutely no room nor right to speak in this area. Rob

[gimmethesimplelife]

Haha I thought of Rob’s obsession in line with mine, but I would call his “ healthcare in America” with AI being just a small part.

Good call, IL. I agree, health care is my obsessive topic. Rob

[Tybee]

Yes. I consider the late Brian Thompson very much Hitlerian with his AI claims denying software mercilessly and illegally causing innocent patient deaths. Cold blooded murder on a NYC street is not something to celebrate per se, no - But Brian Thompson and turbo charged capitalism drew first blood. Good riddance! Rob

This kind of logic is Pure T evil. You have appointed yourself judge, jury, and executioner. If you can't see that, I really think you ought to re-examine your moral compass.

[iris lilies]

This may be of interest:

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...ociety/680961/

Or, if you don't have access, the archive.is version:

https://archive.is/wiOzz

Decivilization, not a good thing. Good article.

[bae]

Perhaps Thompson was the real folk hero?

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/12...luigi-mangione

[LDAHL]

Perhaps Thompson was the real folk hero?

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/12...luigi-mangione

Rare good sense from the NYT.