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    Quote Originally Posted by sweetana3 View Post
    It will just enable the "sovereign citizens", Proud Boys, posse comitatus, and such groups to grow and endanger all others. I have seen what they do since the 1970s when I was working in government.

    The crazies are going to get more crazy and dangerous.
    yes, no doubt emboldening the undesirables and I mean this sincerely.

    But I’ll tell ya—I watch a fair number of Youtube court cases of these sovereign citizen nutjobs and local jurisdictions are not harsh with them. Too many of them get off with barely a slap because they simply tie up court time and the presiding iudge makes an administrative decision to clear the case. The citizens stupidly believe they win on merit but that is not how they get off.

    That said, a fair number of judges throw them in jail for stupid behavior in their courtroom, charging them with contempt.

    St. Louis peeps were all riled up last fall when STL Nazis showed up near my old neighborhood, professing to dispense “German history” literature at their table during a festival. They targeted that neighborhood as the place where slave auctions were stopped, and by German folks. I have to say, I thought that ruse was clever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tybee View Post
    Rob, I hear you. I hear you. The pardon of those January 6 criminals broke my heart. That and the Nazi salute, and the vow to send killing drugs to all the states so that they could get on with their business of executing people. Absolutely chilling times.
    You are blowing Elon’s “Nazi salute ” all out of proportion. There’s enough stuff going on with Trump’s executive orders without making up fake news, as Karine jean-Pierre would call it.

    I will take the word of experts in Nazi identification:

    The Anti-Defamation League (ADL), an organization whose mission is to combat antisemitism and which a “Hitler salute” as one with an “outstretched right arm with the palm down,” shortly after the incident that the billionaire Trump mega-donor “made an awkward gesture in a moment of enthusiasm, not a Nazi salute,” and that “all sides should give one another a bit of grace, perhaps even the benefit of the doubt, and take a breath.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
    You are blowing Elon’s “Nazi salue” all out of proportion. There’s enough stuff going on with Trump’s executive orders without making up fake news, as Karine jean-Pierre would call it.

    I will take the wor of experts in Nazi identification:
    [COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.95)]The Anti-Defamation League (ADL), an organization whose mission is to combat antisemitism and which [/COLOR]describes[COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.95)] a “Hitler salute” as one with an “outstretched right arm with the palm down,” [/COLOR]posted on X[COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.95)] shortly after the incident that the billionaire Trump mega-donor “made an awkward gesture in a moment of enthusiasm, not a Nazi salute,” and that “all sides should give one another a bit of grace, perhaps even the benefit of the doubt, and take a breath.”[/COLOR]
    Yeah, I saw that and I don't buy it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tybee View Post
    Yeah, I saw that and I don't buy it.
    That’s ok, you don’t have to.

    This puts me in mind of all the times Karine scolded us for believing fake news when we saw, with our own eyes, President Biden wander off camera looking vague or saw Obama lead him off stage or etc. See, I did give the old guy “grace” and figured these incidents were deliberately clipped fakes news. Then when I saw old Joe fail his competency test at that seminal debate, I felt duped.

    So maybe Elon IS@Nazi but I can’t help but think how happy the Democratic party would be if the richest man in the world was on their side. They wouldn’t be selling the Nazi salute.

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    okay----did Elon also say "heil"? I don't believe so. You gotta say heil, and Goose step around, to be a REAL Not-See. Yup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tybee View Post
    Yeah, I saw that and I don't buy it.
    Nor do I. As they say, believe when someone shows or tells you who they are.

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    So, all those Nazi's years and years ago were actually demonstrating "My heart goes out to you"?

    I feel so silly for not ever realizing that!
    "Things should be made as simple as possible, but not one bit simpler." ~ Albert Einstein

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    Quote Originally Posted by frugal-one View Post
    Nor do I. As they say, believe when someone shows or tells you who they are.
    When someone is looking for mermaids, all you need to do is show them a walrus. Their imagination will do the rest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LDAHL View Post
    When someone is looking for mermaids, all you need to do is show them a walrus. Their imagination will do the rest.
    Grow up!

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    Well, why fuss about a possible Nazi salute when you can look at other Musky Nazi-adjacent behaviour:

    https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/interne...t-x-rcna186950

    https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/20/media...ght/index.html

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