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    I think the fact that Bondi is asking for the voting records for Minnesotans shows that the real target here is the citizenry, not the immigrants. Both people who were killed by them were citizens.

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    I believe that the straight-out lies of the administration alone should put everyone on notice. I don't know how any true American puts up with the moral bankruptcy and outright corruption of this administration.
    I think the fact that Bondi is asking for the voting records for Minnesotans shows that the real target here is the citizenry, not the immigrants. Both people who were killed by them were citizens.
    agree 1000 percent lol. maybe a bazillion-trillion percent. But way more than 100. 100% is for losers /s

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    If you're in favor of defunding ICE does that also imply that you're in favor of ignoring immigration law and support open borders with little or no vetting for people coming into the country?
    I would think it would make a lot more sense to stop supporting jurisdictions which promote and actively encourage resistance to those agencies tasked with enforcing those laws. I'm certain that would be a much better way to take ICE and CBP officers off your radar. It seems to me that if you remove 'cause' from 'effect', everyday law enforcement is lots more peaceful.
    I mostly OK with ICE as long as they don't use brutal tactics on innocent people, harassment of American citizens, departing people to brutal prisons, homicide and withholding shooting evidence from the public. And Lying. They operated without those things for a couple of decades and among other regimes before Trump V.2.
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    Given the estimated $300,000,000 to $1 billion in federal dollars fed into the Somali scams, it seems to me Minnesota may be kind of sloppy in administration of its programs, including those involving federal dollars. Let Minnesota give state money to undocumented immigrants all it likes. That’s fine, it’s Minnesota citizens making that decision. But not for federal programs.

    So Biondi asking for for welfare program records, voting records, and etc. certainly is “intimidating” to Minnesota bureaucrats if they have to do that work and respond to record requests. But isn’t that their job as beneficiaries of federal dollars? An overall audit doesn’t seem unreasonable to me, even though I have little faith useful data will come out of it.

    I wouldn’t be at all surprised if Minnesota is lacking in how it carries out voter registration. My favorite illegal immigrant, Dr. Ian Roberts, was registered to vote in the state of Maryland where he had a job just a few years ago. No, Maryland is not one of those states that allows non-citizen voter registration for a few local elections. The news of his Iowa arrest created calls in the Maryland statehouse for proof of citizenship when voting.

    The people unlawfully here have impact on our society, both negative and positive. I think Dr. Ian Roberts is an excellent case study because he would have a fair number of defenders including many on this board saying “well he didn’t really do anything bad so he should stay” but did he? Did he do bad things? I mean, obviously he has a felony charge that’s related to guns but beyond that ?

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    I am concerned about loss of first amendment rights For US citizens. That is my primary concern and it does appear that street protests in Minnesota maybe causing some violations of first amendment freedom of assembly and etc.

    I’m far less concerned about people here without legal authority to be here whether they are felons, criminals of other stripes, or squeaky clean contributing members of society.

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    Quote Originally Posted by catherine View Post
    When we talk about "defunding" ICE it is more like returning ICE budgets back to 6B vs. 85B that it was increased to in the BigXBil. Looking at the data I presented in the earlier chart showing deportations under previous administrations of both parties, it appears that you can control immigration without "needing" almost 100B to do it. Money that could be used building community and supporting citizens in better ways.

    I believe infiltrating American cities on a Federal level the way Trump has done it is not for security and safety--it is merely as a show of aggression, intimidation, and insult to his perceived adversaries. Right now there are more immigrants in detention with no criminal record than those with criminal records. These are people who have often been serving in their communities for decades, making no waves.

    I believe that the straight-out lies of the administration alone should put everyone on notice. I don't know how any true American puts up with the moral bankruptcy and outright corruption of this administration.
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    They are gassing residential neighborhoods in Minneapolis with chemical agents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tybee View Post
    They are gassing residential neighborhoods in Minneapolis with chemical agents.
    What do you mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by catherine View Post
    Right now there are more immigrants in detention with no criminal record than those with criminal records. These are people who have often been serving in their communities for decades, making no waves.
    The Tren de Aragua must be laughing their butts off.
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