Government Coup

[LDAHL]

hunh. I never thought of Nixon as being remotely a Democrat in actions. What did he do that makes you say that?

But Trump, sure, he is unmoored philosophically. He can go anywhere tilting at anything that seems opportunistic.

Nixon compiled a record of economic interference that Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren would be proud of. There was a significant expansion of entitlement programs on his watch. He implemented wage and price controls. He grew the regulatory state across the board. He floated proposals for universal health care and universal basic income. He commenced our decades-long delusion that Communist China was something other than a committed enemy.

Just because he crushed George McGovern so badly in ‘72, people seem to think he was some sort of arch-conservative. He was no such thing.

[frugal-one]

Nixon compiled a record of economic interference that Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren would be proud of. There was a significant expansion of entitlement programs on his watch. He implemented wage and price controls. He grew the regulatory state across the board. He floated proposals for universal health care and universal basic income. He commenced our decades-long delusion that Communist China was something other than a committed enemy.

Just because he crushed George McGovern so badly in ‘72, people seem to think he was some sort of arch-conservative. He was no such thing.

FYI … 1939 was the Fair Labors Standards Act. I don’t believe the others were first proposed by him either. History proves he was a republican shyster!

[catherine]

Here's an interesting article about Nixon's more progressive policies, particularly related to healthcare. It sounds like he may have had a personal interest in better access to healthcare, but he also had a Democratic Congress to work with, and maybe his unpopular role in things like the Vietnam War had him searching for a bone to throw to the populace, kind of like Trump signing executive orders for deregulation and tax breaks for the wealthy and expanding the military and Department of Homeland Security and offsetting those policies with "no tax on tips for waiters"

https://www.aei.org/articles/nixon-a...re-compromise/

[frugal-one]

This absolutely makes me sick. I can’t believe anyone condones this!

https://apnews.com/article/ice-deten...60b4d979cb9c48

[Rogar]

This is a true story. My barber is a responsible business owner and otherwise a good conversationist. Last visit she commented on how she has talked with customers about certain topics or hair styles. Shortly there after then gets an email, among many others, promoting a product related specifically to that discussion. I asked how they might know and she said they are listening through peoples cell phones. Seriously.

[iris lilies]

This is a true story. My barber is a responsible business owner and otherwise a good conversationist. Last visit she commented on how she has talked with customers about certain topics or hair styles. Shortly there after then gets an email, among many others, promoting a product related specifically to that discussion. I asked how they might know and she said they are listening through peoples cell phones. Seriously.

Roger I think you are on the wrong thread, did you mean this for Conspiracy Theories?

you saying that your barber was having a face-to-face conversation with a customer in his barber chair? I’m not clear how the conversation was taking place.

if the government is monetizing dumb ads, gee I wish that money would go into the United States treasury, the “ pay off the deficit” fund. It’s probably not though.

[Rogar]

Roger I think you are on the wrong thread, did you mean this for Conspiracy Theories?

you saying that your barber was having a face-to-face conversation with a customer in his barber chair? I’m not clear how the conversation was taking place.

if the government is monetizing dumb ads, gee I wish that money would go into the United States treasury, the “ pay off the deficit” fund. It’s probably not though.

Yes, thanks for the correction. Maybe Alan will move it, but it's probably not that important. Yes, the discussion would occur with a client in the chair, and the ads would follow. Aside from posting in wrong place, I was also not clear. Mia culpa. I don't know that the implication related to the government, it was more like big brother knows. Barber is a staunch republican, if it matters. There was mentioned of implanting chips and how it might not even be needed.

[iris lilies]

Yes, thanks for the correction. Maybe Alan will move it, but it's probably not that important. Yes, the discussion would occur with a client in the chair, and the ads would follow. Aside from posting in wrong place, I was also not clear. Mia culpa. I don't know that the implication related to the government, it was more like big brother knows. Barber is a staunch republican, if it matters. There was mentioned of implanting chips and how it might not even be needed.

I was half joking when I asked if you intended it for Conspiracy Theories.

I could move it if you really think it’s necessary, but I think it’s kind of funny here.Trump and his minions may be listening…

[Rogar]

I was half joking when I asked if you intended it for Conspiracy Theories.

I could move it if you really think it’s necessary, but I think it’s kind of funny here.Trump and his minions may be listening…

Thanks for asking. Maybe it's just fine here anyway. And yes, they may be listening. Or reading.

[bae]

"Antiseptic judicial rhetoric cannot do justice to what is happening. Across the interior of the United States, agents of the federal government - masked, anonymous, armed with military weapons, operating from unmarked vehicles, acting without warrants of any kind - are seizing persons for civil immigration violations and imprisoning them without any semblance of due process. The systematic character of this practice and its deliberate elimination of every structural feature that distinguishes constitutional authority from raw force place it beyond the reach of ordinary legal description. It is an assault on the constitutional order. It is what the Fourth Amendment was written to prevent. It is what the Due Process Clause of the Fifth Amendment forbids."

Judge Goodwin's full opinion is well worth reading. Here's where to find it:

https://www.bloomberglaw.com/public/...1RD7LCUA3AHER0