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    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
    If you’re picky about these places that are fairly nice, I reiterate, you are not sufficiently motivated to leave the United States.
    I still think it is easier than most people know. You *don't* need a visa in most places if you stay there < 6 months, or whatever their particular timer is. If you are willing to shuttle between a couple of places, you're set. And some places are quite inexpensive. And if you have friends in similar circumstances, you can house-swap and keep your costs even lower.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bae View Post
    I still think it is easier than most people know. You *don't* need a visa in most places if you stay there < 6 months, or whatever their particular timer is. If you are willing to shuttle between a couple of places, you're set. And some places are quite inexpensive. And if you have friends in similar circumstances, you can house-swap and keep your costs even lower.
    This is not meant to be a vacation whereby you visit for a few months. Obviously it would be easy to go anywhere for a few months but not find a place to call home. This is especially problematic if you are not in the best of health.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
    I’m not talking about me. I’m talking about you because you’re the one who wants to leave the United States.

    If you’re picky about these places that are fairly nice, I reiterate, you are not sufficiently motivated to leave the United States.
    You obviously have not been there!

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    Quote Originally Posted by frugal-one View Post
    This is not meant to be a vacation whereby you visit for a few months. Obviously it would be easy to go anywhere for a few months but not find a place to call home. This is especially problematic if you are not in the best of health.
    My simple plan, should I get there, involves spending ~6 months in a country in which I already have a home, ~2 weeks back in the USA visiting friends/relatives, and the other ~6 months in a different county, where I will either rent or house-swap.

    Where I live now, half of the residents spend 3-6 months a year in Thailand or Costa Rica - our winters are a bit much for most.

    I'm just saying, don't let the visa thing hang you up, there are legit ways to work around lack of visa.

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    Could you buy property in Canada without a visa, though? And how can you get money into a bank account that is not a US bank account?

    Those are my questions right now.

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    I saw an ad somewhere recently advertising a four year long world tour on cruise ships. I'm guessing they just linked together a bunch of shorter voyages.

    I don't have any desire to relocate away from where I've lived most of my life. In away that's almost like bending the knee to Trump and in my worst case scenario I'm not seeing some return to a Hitler-like nation. I do have a small assortment of emergency and survival gear ready just in case.
    "what is it you plan to do with your one wild and precious life?" Mary Oliver

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogar View Post
    I saw an ad somewhere recently advertising a four year long world tour on cruise ships. I'm guessing they just linked together a bunch of shorter voyages.
    That sounds like heaven, honestly. I guess I'd have to change my name to Phillipa Nolan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogar View Post
    I saw an ad somewhere recently advertising a four year long world tour on cruise ships. I'm guessing they just linked together a bunch of shorter voyages.

    I don't have any desire to relocate away from where I've lived most of my life. In away that's almost like bending the knee to Trump and in my worst case scenario I'm not seeing some return to a Hitler-like nation. I do have a small assortment of emergency and survival gear ready just in case.
    The last one I was aware of, they couldn't find a ship for. It was supposed to be on one ship, that sailed all over where other ships cruised to.

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    I have no desire to leave the US, especially as a single woman. My entire support system is here. I have no connections to any country that might allow me to get a second passport or easy entry. My father’s family was in the US well before World War I from Germany. My mother’s family came to the US from Ontario in the early 30s. I say I’m half Canadian, but my mother and her three preceding siblings were born in the US.

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    Just a few years ago, since we finally had the time post retirement, we seriously pursued Swiss citizenship for DH because he had some sort of “in” for that due to his mother’s birth in Switzerland.

    Along with his sister who was the main driver in this quest, we chased down what would really be required, getting the facts after visiting their mother’s canton in Switzerland.

    The process came down to passing a language test along with a few other things that seemed do-able. But DH doesn’t speak nearly enough Swiss dialect to pass any sort of test and neither does anyone in his family. Their mother is dead.

    I was a little disappointed because while I never would have wanted to live in Switzerland —too expensive!—I liked the idea of Swiss citizenship in the abstract. And Switzerland is NOT a member of the European Union, so that theoretical status would not have allowed me residence in the UK which was once my dream place.

    now, I watch cultural shifts in the UK that trouble me and I do not want to throw my lot in with them despite my deep and abiding love of so many aspects of the UK.

    Related: I made quick back of the envelope calculation about owning a property in Romania similar to our Hermann, Missouri property. It seemed less expensive in
    Hermann. Romania fascinated me! The U.S. has a long way to go to reach the level of societal corruption and malaise of Romania, tho, so I will stay put.

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