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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    The subsidies which are the crux of the problem were never intended to be permanent. The Democrats could have made it so while they were in control but chose not to even try. I'm guessing that if they are successful in getting subsidies back it will again only be short term, probably until next year's mid-terms when they (and you) can blame Republicans again for political gain.
    perhaps they were never meant to be long term because the republicans never did the replace part of repeal and replace. We heard that time and time again. And Didn't Trump tell us time and time again he was rolling out his new health plan in two weeks that covered more people for cheaper and was more comprehensive. Still waiting. But I have to admit they did their darndest to repeal. It's the replacement part they promised. And let us not forget Trumps claim". Who knew health care was so complicated? All the rest of us who actually pay the premiums, research their health care choice every year and have work that offered decent plans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flowerseverywhere View Post
    perhaps they were never meant to be long term because the republicans never did the replace part of repeal and replace.
    I think the actual reason they were never meant to be permanent is because the enhanced subsidies were an emergency measure to help people during the covid shutdowns. They were then extended in 2022 via the Inflation Reduction Act, mostly because, "dude, if we can get this nearly a trillion free dollars of spending past the Republicans, what're we gonna do with it all? Good question, how bout masking just how expensive our signature legislation (the ACA) really is? Great idea! But even with this much free money to spend I don't think we can do that for very long, how about just until 2026?"
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    This seems like a new reason to with hold SNAP?

    Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins described SNAP at a recent press conference as, "so bloated, so broken, so dysfunctional, so corrupt that it is astonishing when you dig in."

    Could be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogar View Post
    This seems like a new reason to with hold SNAP?

    Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins described SNAP at a recent press conference as, "so bloated, so broken, so dysfunctional, so corrupt that it is astonishing when you dig in."

    Could be.
    I think that's a good reason to audit the program, but realistically the only reason SNAP is being withheld is because as of this afternoon Senate Democrats have failed to authorize government re-opening for the 14th time over the past month. The good news is that they can't politically get away with that for much longer so I think we can expect benefits to flow again in the next week or so.
    Of course, there will still be the possibility of another shutdown after Nov 21st when the time limits of the existing CR expire. We'll find out then whether or not anyone's learned a lesson from the current shutdown.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    I think that's a good reason to audit the program, but realistically the only reason SNAP is being withheld is because as of this afternoon Senate Democrats have failed to authorize government re-opening for the 14th time over the past month. The good news is that they can't politically get away with that for much longer so I think we can expect benefits to flow again in the next week or so.

    Your probably right. The new bogus claim is that SNAP money going to illegals. It probably deserves an audit some day, but most likely a red herring. In another time I'd say they cannot "legally" get away with with holding SNAP much longer. That seems less important now and there's not enough time to go through the court systems to th Supreme Court, where it all seems to end up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bae View Post
    22 million Americans are on ACA subsidy plans. ~42 million are receiving SNAP benefits. Seems like a lot of people either way.
    Yes, those match the Kaiser Foundation numbers I have seen. SNAP benefits go to a higher percentage of the vulnerable, children and elderly. ACA subsidies goes more to households in the middle class income range.

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    Close as I can tell from the legal back and forth, the Supreme Court has allowed Trump to temporarily or partially withhold SNAP payments. That's just not right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogar View Post
    Close as I can tell from the legal back and forth, the Supreme Court has allowed Trump to temporarily or partially withhold SNAP payments. That's just not right.
    Justice Jackson, one of the liberal justices, said it was to allow more info to be gathered in the case.

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    I'm not afraid so much as I am capitol-D Disgusted with govt making up an action -- cutting off SNAP - that's never been done in the history of the program, and then doubling, tripling down on it, filing appeal after appeal to judicial orders. To give $40Billion to Argentina, to throw a Great Gatsby-themed Halloween party, to demolish the East Wing to erect a golden ballroom, while withholding food from children, the disabled, and the elderly poor, to reject a proposal to re-open the govt with the ACA subsidies to continue for one lousy year - this signals that Trump and his admin care nothing about the people, and nothing about the rule of law. No food subsidies or healthcare for the poor, but plenty of money for ICE and the Dept. of "War." I am enheartened by the responses of other citizens, stepping up in their own communities to give money and food to food pantries, restaurants planning meals for the needy. Americans are, at heart, generous and good people. The current administration, not so much.

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    The GOP thinks illegals and Ronald Reagan's "welfare queen" are getting snap. These are what I keep seeing online. Some also don't want food pantries to pick up the slack, which is truly evil. They think there are plenty of jobs out there. The usual reports of people in expensive cars picking up at food pantries.

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