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    Quote Originally Posted by bae View Post
    I think at this point I would question the provenance, chain of custody, and integrity of any files or records that see the light of day.

    I am confused as to why people believe they’ll see “the real” files?

    So, whatever gets released will spawn off tons of wacky conspiracy theories.
    Based on all the hoopla and hedging, we all know what is in the files. Pictures have shown us the buddies of Epstein.

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    It looks like the dems Team Cave will reopen things. I suspect the December vote on health care will mostly be a fake vote but will demonstrate how determined the GOP is to make health care costs shoot through the roof. Maybe that will matter in the next elections. Maybe not. A lot more people will be going uninsured is my estimate.
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    I agree. No doubt GOP will show their lack of trustworthiness again. If so, hopefully we will have, in any case, fair elections in the future. It is questionable since a lot rides on trump staying in office to not have to atone for his transgressions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogar View Post
    It looks like the dems Team Cave will reopen things. I suspect the December vote on health care will mostly be a fake vote but will demonstrate how determined the GOP is to make health care costs shoot through the roof. Maybe that will matter in the next elections. Maybe not. A lot more people will be going uninsured is my estimate.
    Yeah. They proved me wrong. Enough moderates will defect to break the filibuster and reopen the government.

    Whether or not the expiring subsidies are reinstated in December, they will have little to no impact on health care costs. They would merely shift some of the costs from some insured parties to taxpayers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LDAHL View Post
    Yeah. They proved me wrong. Enough moderates will defect to break the filibuster and reopen the government.

    Whether or not the expiring subsidies are reinstated in December, they will have little to no impact on health care costs. They would merely shift some of the costs from some insured parties to taxpayers.
    I don't think a solution is a free lunch, either way. Small businesses who are privately insured may have to increase their cost of good or services. Uninsured or underinsured will go to emergency rooms or hospitals that are set up to take them. That is not free and may be passed along as health care increases. Or maybe there are other programs to pay for those? Some people may want to shift their employment to a a business offering health insurance and wear the golden hand cuffs. States may pick up some of the slack, which will be paid with taxes.

    Some bean counter may come up with a breakdown, but I suspect a lot of poor people in the southern states who voted for Trump will be affected more. Maybe the GOP will come up with some alternative to help with high medical or insurance costs, but my guess is that Trump has never liked the ACA from the beginning and it's on his retribution list. It's Obama care. Unless a few rogues will become MTG converts, it will just all go away.

    He is suggesting $2000 check to everyone as some sort of tariff rebate. That might buy off a few disgruntled and almost seems a little too coincidental.

    And what do the citizens want. From the KFF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
    I think the Epstein files should be released and I don’t think for a moment that will quell speculation, in fact, it will provide decades worth of fodder for discussion, conspiracy theories, and perhaps court case cases. Contents of the E files will raise as many questions as there are out there right now.
    What even Epstein files exist, it's not looking like we will ever see them. I wonder, when it comes up for senate vote, if they even know what's in them and what material they are voting for or against. My closest guess is that Trump is only guilty by association, but there are other politicians or big business execs who have more involvement, and that is what's being protected. Today's new said that Trump put pressure on Boebert to take her name off the congressional document and she would not relent. There's got to be something there they don't want our eyes to see since they are bending over backwards to keep them away?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogar View Post
    My closest guess is that Trump is only guilty by association, but there are other politicians or big business execs who have more involvement, and that is what's being protected.
    Naw, I don't think so, from the things I have read over the years and interviews with survivors.

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    The Epstein Files, or whatever evidence that phrase entails, have been around for years now. If there were anything there to incriminate or damage Trump, I have to believe whatever that might be would be a matter of public knowledge by now considering all the coordinated efforts to usurp his first administration and the subsequent efforts to prevent him from enjoying another. I think we're at the point where innuendo is the only thing left and I'm guessing that will be with us until he dies.
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    At least we may soon see the long-awaited Amelia Earhar files released.

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    I don't think peope care how many people Trump has abused--women, girls, migrants, whomever. It's a fool's errand to chase these files if you think all of a sudden Republicans will revolt against him.
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