Why NOT to vote Republican

[JaneV2.0]

I completely agree with the first paragraph excerpted here.

As for the second--what would you call, not "bad," (which carries moralistic tones) but maybe "undesirable" in our democracy? If not an attempted coup, what? It would be better if we stop trying to create Marvel comic book heroes and villains out of our legislators and their constituents--which as you said, is totally perpetrated by the media--but let's get real. People were incited by our outgoing President to attack the Capitol building and inflict harm on people who were trying to uphold the democratic process most of us are happy to abide by. Is that a response you find to be OK? I don't blame the Republican Party for that horrific response to January 6 proceedings, but I blame them if they support the players--either by overt or tacit agreement with the behavior or by keeping quiet in order to follow the Party line and protect their own agendas.

Not a few Republicans--like Barry Loudermilk, Lauren Boebert and others--actively aided the insurrectionists, and countless others--including Trump--are still championing the thugs who carried it off.

[iris lilies]

I completely agree with the first paragraph excerpted here.

As for the second--what would you call, not "bad," (which carries moralistic tones) but maybe "undesirable" in our democracy? If not an attempted coup, what? It would be better if we stop trying to create Marvel comic book heroes and villains out of our legislators and their constituents--which as you said, is totally perpetrated by the media--but let's get real. People were incited by our outgoing President to attack the Capitol building and inflict harm on people who were trying to uphold the democratic process most of us are happy to abide by. Is that a response you find to be OK? I don't blame the Republican Party for that horrific response to January 6 proceedings, but I blame them if they support the players--either by overt or tacit agreement with the behavior or by keeping quiet in order to follow the Party line and protect their own agendas.

I want the perpetrators of January 6 to be prosecuted. I do not have evidence that is not happening. I do not want the Republican party as a whole to support the craziness of January 6. Whether Donald Trump meets a legal definition of responsibility for January 6 is Not clear to me but I know to others here it’s a slam dunk. Life is easy in black and white land.

Yeah I wish the whole thing wasn’t “political “but everything is political and most things these days are performed for the cameras. That is unfortunate for our democracy.

What is slam dunk for me is that Donald Trump is not temperamentally suited to be the President of the United States and I will have to actively vote against him next time around if he’s on the ballot. This is why I like Ron DeSantis who not only seems rational, he is YOUNG.

[jp1]

And once again republicans keep pretending that Jan 6 was a discrete event and not part of a significantly bigger plot to overturn the election. Alan may or may not have his head in the sand, but Iris you certainly do.

[frugal-one]

Wait, I thought Alan’s problem was that his head was in the sand. Can he twist facts with his head in the sand? Can one do any twisting at all with one’s head stuck in sand?

Also, another question I’ve been wanting to ask you – you use a lot of !!! in your writing. Do you think if you use one or two more !’s you would convince me of anything? Is good debate technique just a matter of quantity of exclamation points?

Not facing reality is the same as putting one's head in the sand. Don't want to see what they don't want to see. I only use exclamation points when warranted IMO.... extreme behavior is one! Some people capitalize or use other modes of conveyance YLMV. It is evident those that don't want to see ... won't. It is exasperating though when they try to justify the unjustifiable .... hang Mike Pence or try to overthrow the government are prime examples.

[JaneV2.0]

I think it's clear why the January 6 Committee wants to get their findings in front of the public--and not allow them to be buried as the Mueller Report was--because it's critical that Americans see the extent of the crime and the evidence for it.

[ApatheticNoMore]

This is why I like Ron DeSantis who not only seems rational, he is YOUNG.

thinking gosh he doesn't look it. Ok he looks 50 something but apparently is actually 44, not that that is young.

[Alan]

thinking gosh he doesn't look it. Ok he looks 50 something but apparently is actually 44, not that that is young.

44 is only 9 years older than the constitutional minimum age for the office, and it's the same age as my daughter. I think that's young.

[LDAHL]

I think it's clear why the January 6 Committee wants to get their findings in front of the public--and not allow them to be buried as the Mueller Report was--because it's critical that Americans see the extent of the crime and the evidence for it.

Buried? You can get it from Amazon for $26.19.

[frugal-one]

Buried? You can get it from Amazon for $26.19.

Who ever would think to check Amazon? That is buried for many (including me). Sad commentary above.

[JaneV2.0]

You shouldn't have to pay $26.19 to find out the president was colluding with Putin.