The Daily Peeve / Rant

[iris lilies]

IL, first of all, if you’re using Apple Car Play, the map will be on the big display on your dash,. Why were you trying to see the directions on your phone instead of on the screen? Makes no sense. I DESPISE audio directions. I never use them. If I’m in someone else’s car, I always talk back some to the voice! LOL

well, sure. I want the route to be displayed on my dash screen but it did not work. Nothing on Mapquest worked on the dash screen. DH could not get my phone to work with the dash screen.

He WAS successful in getting his phone, the exact model as mine, to work on our car dash screen.

but in this installation mess, somehow my phone got partially installed so that it would not work normally with the audio directions I need, and yet it didn’t work at all on the dash screen. It was completely ****ed up.

I rely on audio. If you don’t, that is your preference. I rely on audio because my phone is a model SE and it’s a very small screen. I don’t want to look at his tiny screen, keep pushing the screen to keep it from going dark, adjust my glasses to look at it, and drive at the same time.

[Tradd]

Then try Apple Maps or Google Maps. Might as well use that big dash screen.

[iris lilies]

Then try Apple Maps or Google Maps. Might as well use that big dash screen.

My car dash screen system works fine with DH’s phone and Mapquest. I want the thing that is supposed to work to actually work.

I don’t want to change mapping systems mainly because I would have to move and forth between two different systems as I use one car that does not connect to my phone.

[sweetana3]

The complexity of setting up the phone and then trying to use the various Bluetooth things is the reason I kept my little Garmon for road trips. I am comfortable with it even with its limitations. I just cannot be distracted while driving with new or complex things.

[Tradd]

The complexity of setting up the phone and then trying to use the various Bluetooth things is the reason I kept my little Garmon for road trips. I am comfortable with it even with its limitations. I just cannot be distracted while driving with new or complex things.

It’s not complicated. I had a rental Chevy SUV last December for my FL trip. I had my iPhone connected for Apple Car Play and my phone displayed on the screen in a few minutes.

Based on that experience, an 80 year old woman at church handed me her iPhone, took me to her car, and asked me to set it up. Again, a few minutes.

My 2018 Escape has a little black and white screen for radio, phone calls, and music. It doesn’t have the big colorful screen for Car Play, which is a must have for my next car.

[iris lilies]

There is NO delivered message indicator on texts to non-iPhone users.

Sorry, I re-read what you wrote.

ok so there is not supposed to be “delivered” message to non-Apple users? Why?

[Tradd]

Sorry, I re-read what you wrote.

ok so there is not supposed to be “delivered” message to non-Apple users? Why?

Because they’re not using iMessage. Simple as that.

[Alan]

ok so there is not supposed to be “delivered” message to non-Apple users? Why?

Because Apple doesn't play well with Android and doesn't much care about the universal standard for messaging. At one time virtually all messaging used SMS (short messaging service), a text only messaging protocol. Then along came MMS (Multimedia Messaging Service) which added the ability to add pictures, videos, etc. SMS/MMS has now been replaced with RCS (Rich Communication Services) which combines SMS/MMS with additional features such as showing you when someone is typing and read receipts. It has now become the universal messaging standard.
Apple's proprietary iMessage service does the same things, but doesn't fully integrate with the universal standard. All messages sent using iMessage are converted to SMS when interacting with a non Apple appliance, therefore losing all the richer features both Apple and Android support. Google has been working with Apple for several years trying to get them to make iMessage more universally compliant but they haven't yet shown any interest in doing so.

[sweetana3]

And part of the issue in communication between us is just that. I use an Android phone and a PC. No Apple products. Plus, I would prefer to keep my technology life as simple as possible (maybe due to age).

[catherine]

Because Apple doesn't play well with Android and doesn't much care about the universal standard for messaging. At one time virtually all messaging used SMS (short messaging service), a text only messaging protocol. Then along came MMS (Multimedia Messaging Service) which added the ability to add pictures, videos, etc. SMS/MMS has now been replaced with RCS (Rich Communication Services) which combines SMS/MMS with additional features such as showing you when someone is typing and read receipts. It has now become the universal messaging standard.
Apple's proprietary iMessage service does the same things, but doesn't fully integrate with the universal standard. All messages sent using iMessage are converted to SMS when interacting with a non Apple appliance, therefore losing all the richer features both Apple and Android support. Google has been working with Apple for several years trying to get them to make iMessage more universally compliant but they haven't yet shown any interest in doing so.

Very interesting, Alan. Thanks for that explanation. I have also noticed that some texts go out SMS and others don't, but I thought it was because of some signal in my area that might be unavailable.

Google has been working with Apple for several years trying to get them to make iMessage more universally compliant but they haven't yet shown any interest in doing so.

So "Apple" of them. They've been that way forever, and it almost cost them the business when Microsoft gained headway in the 90s.