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Ultralight
6-10-16, 12:12pm
"...31% of American adults, or 76 million people, say they are struggling to get by or just barely making it, according to the Federal Reserve Bank's latest survey (http://www.federalreserve.gov/2015-report-economic-well-being-us-households-201605.pdf) on Americans' economic well-being, which looked at 2015."

Wait for it... wait for it...!

"And that's actually good news. Two years earlier, the Fed found that 38% of Americans were in weak financial shape."

http://money.cnn.com/2016/06/10/news/economy/americans-struggling-financially/ (http://money.cnn.com/2016/06/10/news/economy/americans-struggling-financially/)

Williamsmith
6-10-16, 1:43pm
As soon as The Fed raises the interest rates significantly.....and I watch the ensueing crash of the stock market along with my small retirement nest egg disappearing from my IRA........I will believe it.

LDAHL
6-10-16, 3:04pm
As soon as The Fed raises the interest rates significantly.....and I watch the ensueing crash of the stock market along with my small retirement nest egg disappearing from my IRA........I will believe it.

If you think that's going to happen, why not shift to short term bonds?

Williamsmith
6-10-16, 3:39pm
If you think that's going to happen, why not shift to short term bonds?

I don't think The Fed will ever raise the rates. I think it is more likely they will adopt Negative Interest Rates in order to continue to feast on our debt. But yes, as soon as I can get out altogether without a 10% penalty and an additional penalty from the account manager......which is in two and one half years........I will be out altogether.

bae
6-10-16, 4:03pm
I don't think The Fed will ever raise the rates. I think it is more likely they will adopt Negative Interest Rates in order to continue to feast on our debt.

I concur. Unless they decide to act as some sort of demented Praetorian Guard and use their power to influence elections...

LDAHL
6-10-16, 4:31pm
I don't think The Fed will ever raise the rates. I think it is more likely they will adopt Negative Interest Rates in order to continue to feast on our debt. But yes, as soon as I can get out altogether without a 10% penalty and an additional penalty from the account manager......which is in two and one half years........I will be out altogether.

If you think that, wouldn't you want to buy fixed rate securities with the longest possible duration on the assumption we'd be experiencing long term deflation?

bae
6-10-16, 4:45pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JITC1fo2HA

Williamsmith
6-10-16, 8:34pm
If you think that, wouldn't you want to buy fixed rate securities with the longest possible duration on the assumption we'd be experiencing long term deflation?

Im not sure exactly what investments make sense because every development up until the time to act impacts on that decision. I am more committed to a diverse set of circumstances. Gold being a part of that, no debt being another, useful critical commodities, easy liquidity and some well placed real estate all seem to make more sense than investment in stocks that rely on central banking and the expansion of an elastic money supply. Like the Big Bang, contraction follows expansion.

ToomuchStuff
6-11-16, 10:23am
"...31% of American adults, or 76 million people, say they are struggling to get by or just barely making it, according to the Federal Reserve Bank's latest survey (http://www.federalreserve.gov/2015-report-economic-well-being-us-households-201605.pdf) on Americans' economic well-being, which looked at 2015."

Wait for it... wait for it...!

"And that's actually good news. Two years earlier, the Fed found that 38% of Americans were in weak financial shape."

http://money.cnn.com/2016/06/10/news/economy/americans-struggling-financially/ (http://money.cnn.com/2016/06/10/news/economy/americans-struggling-financially/)

What is a crumb bum? So does it mean that 7% learned that debt/payments are not savings, and things like emergencies, happen just like rain?

organictex
6-14-16, 10:48am
What is a crumb bum? So does it mean that 7% learned that debt/payments are not savings, and things like emergencies, happen just like rain?

I guess it means we're living on crumbs, and thus "bums" to this person's thinking...

Ultralight
6-14-16, 12:12pm
Crumb bum is something said in my neck of the woods. I thought it was universal.

Teacher Terry
6-14-16, 12:51pm
I haven't heard that expression since I left Wis!

Ultralight
6-14-16, 12:52pm
Street toughs is another one. haha

ToomuchStuff
6-14-16, 1:35pm
Street toughs is another one.....

...that is not defined. Slang certainly isn't universal. It does vary by both age and locations.

organictex
6-15-16, 8:10am
to me it just sounds like ignorance if you are equating poverty with moral turpitude
or violence...

Ultralight
6-15-16, 8:13am
to me it just sounds like ignorance if you are equating poverty with moral turpitude
or violence...

I was being sarcastic.

jp1
6-15-16, 9:48am
to me it just sounds like ignorance if you are equating poverty with moral turpitude
or violence...


I was being sarcastic.

Organictex, ULA fancies himself as the Stephen Colbert of the simple living forums...

ToomuchStuff
6-15-16, 10:31am
Organictex, ULA fancies himself as the Stephen Colbert of the simple living forums...

He does?
Sarcasm in the written word, is so much different then the spoken word. (and as I have said, there are reasons for smiley's)

organictex
6-15-16, 1:11pm
well, I 'm sorry I didn't get it. guess I should hang out here more often before wading in ;)

iris lilies
6-15-16, 1:29pm
Sarcasm is a way of being duplicitous. and, a little goes a long way.

But since I do it myself, I am offering this up as a thought about human failings.

Molly
9-19-16, 4:32pm
How can interest rates stay this low forever? Don't they need to rise soon? I don't know anything about economics.

LDAHL
9-19-16, 5:20pm
Nothing is forever. Although "markets can stay irrational longer than investors can remain solvent'.

Anyone who thinks he can predict interest rates is either lying or deluded.

sweetana3
9-19-16, 5:57pm
Ditto the stock market.