How many more?

[bae]

I did like how the newscaster outed the shooter LEO as a "white hispanic" officer. Is that now the standard? I mean white hispanics? Are there black hispanics? Brown Hispanics? Hispanics of color?

Yes. "Hispanic" is cultural, not racial.

[iris lilies]

Yes. "Hispanic" is cultural, not racial.
Ok, I know that is the way the census and many demographic surveys are set up. In those situations we honor the person's self identity.

In this case when the media assigns the race snd cuktural identity, the media's decision seems suspect.

[Ultralight]

It is impossible to know from this video the perceived threat to the immediate community from these two men.

Wow.

[Tammy]

It's not just self identity. There are really black Hispanics. I work with one. From Panama. She's as back as you can imagine, Spanish is first language, immigrated here, and you should see people's surprise when they hear her Spanish accent. 😄

[bae]

Ok, I know that is the way the census and many demographic surveys are set up. In those situations we honor the person's self identity.


It's not just semantics. I know people from Spanish-speaking countries, born-and-raised there, from families that have been there many generations, who range from blond-blue-eyed-pale-white-skin to very very dark.

As to the media's motives in their wording, well....

[iris lilies]

Wow.
Dude, a citizen called 911 to report a man with a gun in the street.

[bae]

Dude, a citizen called 911 to report a man with a gun in the street.

Yup, you need to know the backstory before reaching conclusions. What was called in? What did dispatch say? What were the officers expecting to find? How did they get there? Etc....

Our dispatch officers have been trained to *not* initially tell us certain things on the way to the site of the call, so as not to prejudice our assessment and reactions, and to keep us from getting too amped-up while driving to the location.

[iris lilies]

After this discussion I will give the media some slack, although maybe
I think they dont have to mention cultural affiliation since how would they know besides a Surname? I would think that smeone's color is often tricky, too.

I worked with someone for two decades before I learned she was African American. I just figured she was of Greek or Mediterrainian background.

No need to respond here, I am just musing.

[bae]

Imworked with someone for two decades before I learned she was African American. I just figured she was of greek or mefiterainian background.


"African-American" is a label that sometimes doesn't make sense if taken literally too. Charlize Theron for example, or my high-school roommate from Zimbabwe.

[Ultralight]

Your tendency to challenge/question/talk shit without research/opinion/sources to back yourself up is called trolling.
(And your choice to direct your trolling at me is called stupid, when I place someone on ignore it's board wide and final.;))

I guess you are right. Turns out David Duke is a running as a democrat!

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/david-duke-former-kkk-leader-announces-senate-run-n615006

[LDAHL]

"African-American" is a label that sometimes doesn't make sense if taken literally too. Charlize Theron for example, or my high-school roommate from Zimbabwe.

Go back far enough in time, and we're all African-Americans.

[jp1]

"African-American" is a label that sometimes doesn't make sense if taken literally too. Charlize Theron for example, or my high-school roommate from Zimbabwe.

Or the singer Dave Matthews. He was born in Johannesburg but became a US citizen when he was a teenager.

[Teacher Terry]

It sounds to me like an autistic man with a toy in his hand and his aide would be real threats-good thing they shot them:confused:

[freshstart]

when the aide asked "why did you shoot me?", the officer said, "I don't know." We have a long road to hoe. Creaker already said this, I'm just speechless on this one. I am glad I don't have a loved one in a group home who doesn't respond to traditional commands

[creaker]

As to the media's motives in their wording, well....

To make money?

[creaker]

when the aide asked "why did you shoot me?", the officer said, "I don't know." We have a long road to hoe. Creaker already said this, I'm just speechless on this one. I am glad I don't have a loved one in a group home who doesn't respond to traditional commands

I do - and most of the workers in my son's group home tend to be people of color. The current group of people working his home have been great. I'm just glad things are easier in my area. My son needs lot of walks - and it puts these workers out strolling in the "wrong" (wrong in the sense where I could imagine someone picking up the phone and reporting it) neighborhood (Brookline). But if there's been any issues I've haven't heard.

[Teacher Terry]

They probably won't tell you because they are afraid of losing clients. At one point I worked with group homes so know how they operate.

[ToomuchStuff]

Go back far enough in time, and we're all African-Americans.

That would be half right. If you went back that far, there wasn't America and we probably didn't call it Africa.

[creaker]

That would be half right. If you went back that far, there wasn't America and we probably didn't call it Africa.

For whatever reason my parents decided I had to be born in the states - if they hadn't sent my mom over when she was 7 months pregnant, I would have been born in Libya to an American citizen and an Italian citizen - and I would have had an endless choice of labels :-)

[ToomuchStuff]

For whatever reason my parents decided I had to be born in the states - if they hadn't sent my mom over when she was 7 months pregnant, I would have been born in Libya to an American citizen and an Italian citizen - and I would have had an endless choice of labels :-)

Depending on the time frame, you might look up what medicine was like in that country, mortality rates and such.