The thing I remember most from face-to-face meetings, was the level of control exerted and desired by certain managers. I really think a lot of that would be lost with teleconferencing, and I don't think a lot of managers would like that loss.
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The thing I remember most from face-to-face meetings, was the level of control exerted and desired by certain managers. I really think a lot of that would be lost with teleconferencing, and I don't think a lot of managers would like that loss.
Personally, I'm trying to stock up a little extra on grains and beans. lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by dado potato
We have grocery delivery here, so i dont worry about stocking up.I woild have the delivery people leave sacks on the sidewalk, they wouldn't not come into our house. I mean, this assumes we are wuarentined and the rest of the world is not.
We have a freezer full of stuff, as well as a fair amount of beans and rice. But the fresh stuff we would miss after a few days.
I am glad gardening season is around the corner so we can grow some fresh stuff. Starting seeds in the windows now.
My son called last night and gave me a hard time about going to so many large events. I am skipping the parade that I was supposed to march in on Saturday but my husband is still going calling me paranoid.
A New York doctor was on CNBC making a case for urgency in this matter. This "exceptional" country is only testing a tiny fraction of what other countries are. He expects us to be swamped in no time. This is truly disgusting.
I’m going to be skipping the gym for the time being and working out at home.
I've been thinking the same Tradd. Not so much because I'm worried about getting sick but since we have contact with so many compromised elderly in our volunteer work. I would hate to think that I somehow carried something in and put somebody at risk.
Wanted to go to a gardening conference this coming weekend but now I don't know. It is in a hotel conference center with people from all over the state. I noticed it is not sold out as in years past. There is just so much uncertainty...
The gym is like a Petri dish. I’ve only been using the bike (and fewer people use the recumbent, which is what I use), but I don’t want to get sick. Found modified burpees online. The regular ones hurt my knees. I got such a good workout on the bike, but better safe than sorry.Quote:
Originally Posted by Simplemind
I’m still going to church. It’s Lent, so there are more people at services, but our parish is about 175 at the most.
No hugging, etc.
I had plans to visit my favorite niece and her kids for the last few weeks but they've been sick (family of 7) so the visit keeps getting postponed. Now the CDC is advising those with compromised immune systems to take extra precautions. I fall in that category. They are finally all recovered and I'm not sick, but now I'm nervous about going. Last time I went, early February, I came down with a bad cold as soon as I got home. That cold was bad for a week and then took another week to clear up. Don't know if I'm being paranoid or practical. They'll think I'm being paranoid for sure (youthful optimism), but...
My immune system has always served me well, but it hasn't been called upon to do much for many years. I'm not interested in testing it on an unknown that may result in fibrosis or worse.
I got a message from my doctor yesterday, she wants me have some follow up bloodwork done just to make sure a few conditions are still okay from all the stuff I had last year. I really don't want to be in a hospital right now. I'm going to hold off on it as long as I can. I hope I don't regret it.
Same here. We were wondering if the church would be emptier, especially since traditional churches have such a high proportion of elderly parishioners (at least in the Northeast). But it was the same attendance. The priest gave us the run-down on social distancing and also best communion practices.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tradd
I'm going to the gym, I credit it in part for why I never get sick pretty much as is. If I was high risk I might get grocery delivery (over 60, preexisting conditions), being I'm not, I see no reason to do so. I have a risk of getting sick, well so does the delivery person, and probably not much different than mine.
Ours was down about 60 in attendance (130 from 190)Quote:
Originally Posted by catherine
A priest in Washington DC gave communion to 500 people and has tested positive for coronavirus. So church may not be the place to go.
It's and excellent time of year for bird watching and gardening.
Oh and our first diagnosed case in the St. Louis region was self quarantining, along with her family. Until they weren’t.
The daughter of the family came home from Italy after studying there. She was verified to have the coronavirus. The entire family was told to stay in. Dad and younger sister decided that they didn’t need to follow that directive And they went to a father daughter dance Saturday night in a room full of many people. So that was an excellent way to spread the thing.
I guess they are very special people to not have to pay attention to basic health directive or even common sense.
Edited to add: this family lawyered up pretty fast, not surprising because they are from the ritziest ZIP Code in St. Louis.They are claiming their local health department did not tell them to quarantine themselves,that only the college age daughter was supposed to be quarantined.
IL, really self centered. Ugh!
IL, I saw that, too. Selfish people.
In Italy you can get 3-6 months in jail for violating the quarantine. Trump shook hands with 2 people that now have the virus. His attitude has been very cavalier about it.
Well, I just checked with my travel insurance about my Alaska cruise in early May. Because there has been a travel advisory ban against cruises in effect until the end of April, I can now cancel the whole trip and am covered both flight and cruise by my travel insurance to the amount that I chose to purchase. It is all good and I am home in comfort.
A couple has returned from a cruise to Australia/NZ which was to continue to Hong Kong and other parts of Asia. Since the trip to Asia was concelled, they had to purchase return home tickets at a premoim price and other related expenses before they could return home. He is trying to find out how much their insurance will cover of those extra costs.
Life is interesting these days.
I just finished making the statistical model our County will use for figuring out what to do.
I used as much information on infection rates and such as was available as of Sunday evening.
Basic top-level takeaways:
- One week after an initial infection appears in your community, things really speed up. The inflection point is at about day 5/6.
- About 2 weeks after the initial infection appears, assuming things go as they did in China, infections will have reached about 90% of their peak.
- People who get the "just a cold"-level infection take about 2 weeks to be happy again.
- People who get the "super bad flu or worse" infection take 3-6 weeks to be happy again, assuming they live.
Conclusion: 2 months' supply of toilet paper, bacon, and coffee should do you just fine.
Bae, good to know. Looks like I can book plane trip for early July. Late May is more sketchy.
I have my 35th Princeton Reunion in late May, and I'm really on the fence. Princeton basically has shut down for now - all remote classes, no meetings/gatherings/events, and so on.Quote:
Originally Posted by iris lilies
Probably will keep my reservations open for hotels, but I haven't booked my travel yet. Bother.
A reporter on MSNBC mentioned that one of the recommendations was that people 60 and over stay off airplanes for the duration, but that hasn't filtered out of the containment capsule in Washington DC.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/06/healt...ing/index.html
"The CDC guidance comes as two top infectious disease experts with ties to the federal government have advised people over 60 and those with underlying health problems to strongly consider avoiding activities that involve large crowds. Dr. William Schaffner, a Vanderbilt University professor and longtime adviser to the CDC, said these two groups should consider avoiding activities such as traveling by airplane, going to movie theaters, attending family events, shopping at crowded malls, and going to religious services."
I've been following the "worldometer" and that seems about right just form my amateur swag, or at least I hope so, but peak infection seems dependent on containment and early detection. There's the large population sample in China and a similar trend in Japan and S Korea, but Italy and Iran who have fewer medical resources or different containment procedures have not followed suit. I suspect your take is more accurate and with better information.Quote:
Originally Posted by bae
The first state to establish a Containment Zone was New York, designating the area within a 1-mile radius of the Young Israel Synagogue in New Rochelle, NY.
According to news coverage, the rabbi and 108 members of the congregation have contracted COVID-19, and have been under voluntary quarantine since last week.
In the Containment Zone large public gatherings are banned. People are allowed to go in and out of the area. Local shops are expected to remain open. The numerous public and private schools will be closed for cleaning. The National Guard will be deployed to support the containment. Mayor Noam Bramson explained to NPR that the National Guard will not be involved in military or policing functions, but will deliver food to residents and assist with cleaning.
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Originally Posted by iris lilies
The thing is I've already been seeing colds last 2 weeks around here, wondering: "what is wrong with these people, why don't they get better already, whoever heard of a cold lasting more than like a week?" Might not be corona but ...
I rarely get over a cold in a week. First is the sore throat, then the congestion and runny nose, then the coughing. Three or more weeks is typical for me.
To add, I've read that the timeline from contracting the virus to showing symptoms is typically 5-6 days, in case you've been out-n-about and now wondering.
ANM: There is the cold and there is the flu. I always feel a cold lasts a week. The flu much longer at least with the cough and lack of energy. Throw in bronchitis, which is an issue I have with asthma, and three weeks or more is possible.
The other thing I’ve read, though, is that covid19 doesn’t typically present like a regular cold. The infection is deeper in the lungs so typically it’s all cough and fever, not so much a sore throat, runny nose etc. that said, enough people who’ve tested positive for the coronavirus have had nose-ish symptoms to make it uncertain what you have if you are presenting with more typical cold/flu symptoms.
Basically, the symptom/diagnostic information changes every day (or hour), so pretty much don't waste your time on the Internet for now, and just be prudent.
Speaking as my County's sorta-semi-official Epidemiologist, and consulting constantly with The Real Deal people at the state and federal levels.
(It should chill your bones that a retired statistician who specializes in high energy physics, and communications network modelling, has been drafted, btw... They handed me a textbook last week and said "have at it!". I would have expected Better Of Our Nation. This is like a bad Contagion movie.)
While I am getting depressed and scared over this whole mess, and extremely stressed about whether to cancel an upcoming flight to visit my grandson on his birthday, I am glad they picked you and very grateful, Bae.
Actually, you make perfect sense as the candidate for the role - statistics, analytical, communication and familiarity with the neighbourhood's environment including access to care - all essential components of accurate reporting. The assessment and diagnosis is part of the medical community's responsibility. Sounds like your community has it all under control.Quote:
Originally Posted by bae
I don't seem to get over things very quickly any more. I was sick for all of January and most of February slight temperature, productive cough, tired, etc. First a course of antibiotic and then steroids before I finally started feeling better. Whatever it was seemed to settle in my lungs, so I'm a bit nervous about the virus. We'll see. Hope everyone stays safe and healthy.Quote:
Originally Posted by ApatheticNoMore