Let the debate begin?

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Originally Posted by iris lilies

I have not been paying the riveted attention to their antics that you have. There is something about name calling Republicans “Weird” which I find funny in a middle school dopey way but I don’t know the origin of this latest name calling campaign. Makes me want to print up a t-shirt “Proud for being weird.”

i’m just glad they took the ancient incompetent old person in the White House off the table for the next election. I will not forgive them for selling him as a viable candidate. If he had stepped out of the race when he should have, I would be more likely to vote Democratic for president. But the lying liars who lied to us about Biden need not be rewarded. Even though we knew just due to his chronological age he was not fit for 4 more years, I did not realize the extent of his incapacity. I feel personally betrayed.

I don’t know if that sense of betrayal will abate by November. That said, I find Harris to be the basic B Democrat and not especially objectionable. Ldahl, please note I am avoiding Charlie Cooke in all things Harris. I really dont want to know the gory details about her if I end up voting for her.

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Funny you should comment on that…. trump said something like 30,000 lies while president and just recently while on stage for a short while with Biden was fact-checked and found to have spewed 3,000+ untruths. trump is the ultimate “lying liar”!

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Originally Posted by Alan

Biden received 5 deferments due to asthma. Does he still have asthma? Trump also received 5 deferments, 4 for college and one for bad feet.

I read somewhere that during the Vietnam era roughly 60% of potential draftees sought deferment for one reason or another. As a Vietnam era vet myself, I can't recall actually knowing anyone who succeeded in getting one, certainly none of the thousands of young men I served with.

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When asked trump could not rememer which foot had bones spurs ..

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Originally Posted by Alan

Nope, regardless of how you always group us all together according to your own bias, we are not a stereotype.

Plus, I've not heard of anyone referring to Walz's service, or anyone else's for that matter, as "lesser", did I miss something?

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Vance has falsely accused Walz of quitting to avoid going to Iraq while talking up his Iraq service that didn’t involve and wasn’t going to involve combat.

Vance reminds me of Grover Dill from A Christmas Story.

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Originally Posted by jp1

Vance has falsely accused Walz of quitting to avoid going to Iraq while talking up his Iraq service that didn’t involve and wasn’t going to involve combat.

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I think that was a small group of senior NCO's who served with Walz who made that accusation. It was then repeated by many news organizations, commentators and apparently Vance. Who really knows if it's true or false?

Brianna Keilar had a something to say about the "swiftboating" of Walz and Vance--how denigrating anyone's military service diminishes everyone's military service. I thought she stated it very well.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/09/polit...alz-cnc-digvid

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Originally Posted by catherine

Brianna Keilar had a something to say about the "swiftboating" of Walz and Vance--how denigrating anyone's military service diminishes everyone's military service. I thought she stated it very well.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/09/polit...alz-cnc-digvid

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I wholeheartedly agree with her.

I agree with her too. So why is Vance questioning Walt’s service. Is he just a dick? I don’t get it.

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Originally Posted by jp1

I agree with her too. So why is Vance questioning Walt’s service. Is he just a dick? I don’t get it.

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Military members don't take stolen valor lightly, if Walz hadn't repeatedly implied he had carried weapons of war in war zones the story of his fellow senior NCO's claims that he retired to avoid being sent to one wouldn't have gotten as much traction as it did and we wouldn't be talking about it now.

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Originally Posted by jp1

I agree with her too.

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I think she did a pretty good job of cleaning up the mess she previously made when she suggested on air that Vance shouldn't be repeating others claims when his role as a combat correspondent in Iraq didn't actually put him into combat, even if he was in a combat zone.

Sometimes you have to re-fill the holes you've dug.