Let the debate begin?

[Alan]

I think Harris could stop that sort of thing if she would speak to reporters without a script in hand. I don't think she's done that yet and it doesn't look like she will anytime soon. That's why I think she'll never agree to a debate considering how terribly she fared in 2020. I know she says she's ready and waiting for Trump on ABC but she knows he won't go there due to a lawsuit and if he should change his mind she can always fall back on refusing to debate a convicted felon. I think she's channelling Nancy Pelosi's "We won't know what's in it until we pass it", only this time we won't know her unscripted thoughts until we elect her.

It looks like I was wrong! I just read that Trump today agreed to the ABC debate on Sep 10th as well as two others, one on Fox and one on NBC. Harris then told reporters that she was looking forward to the ABC debate but apparently hasn't agreed to the two additional ones. Maybe she's waiting to see how the first one goes.

[bae]

Maybe a debate at Folsom Prison?

[Alan]

I'm still not convinced though whether Trump faked things to get out of his obligations.

Biden received 5 deferments due to asthma. Does he still have asthma? Trump also received 5 deferments, 4 for college and one for bad feet.

I read somewhere that during the Vietnam era roughly 60% of potential draftees sought deferment for one reason or another. As a Vietnam era vet myself, I can't recall actually knowing anyone who succeeded in getting one, certainly none of the thousands of young men I served with.

[jp1]

That wasn't it at all. He's getting a lot of justifiable grief for 'stolen valor', wherein he is on record on numerous occasions talking about carrying weapons of war in war, when he actually never did. It's a big no no to imply combat service when you've never been in a combat zone.

I suppose one could quibble about whether serving in the military defending a foreign base that isn’t in a war zone counts for how Walz described it. And from the maga point of view that’s undoubtedly preferable to trying to defend their wildly unpopular project 2025 agenda.

[jp1]

Biden received 5 deferments due to asthma. Does he still have asthma? Trump also received 5 deferments, 4 for college and one for bad feet.

I read somewhere that during the Vietnam era roughly 60% of potential draftees sought deferment for one reason or another. As a Vietnam era vet myself, I can't recall actually knowing anyone who succeeded in getting one, certainly none of the thousands of young men I served with.

I guess none of their daddies were as rich as trump’s. From what I’ve read bone spurs are degenerative if not treated. I wonder what treatment he received since 50 subsequent years of golf would seem to show that in fact he hasn’t had them for that time. We’ll never know of course because like everything else in trump’s life he will never actually be honest with us. Or present receipts to verify anything.

[Alan]

I suppose one could quibble about whether serving in the military defending a foreign base that isn’t in a war zone counts for how Walz described it.

Well, in that case I carried weapons of war while defending bases in Indiana and Alaska during the Vietnam era. Does that make me a combat vet?
Regardless of your approval, I would never imply so.

[gimmethesimplelife]

I have not been paying the riveted attention to their antics that you have. There is something about name calling Republicans “Weird” which I find funny in a middle school dopey way but I don’t know the origin of this latest name calling campaign. Makes me want to print up a t-shirt “Proud for being weird.”

i’m just glad they took the ancient incompetent old person in the White House off the table for the next election. I will not forgive them for selling him as a viable candidate. If he had stepped out of the race when he should have, I would be more likely to vote Democratic for president. But the lying liars who lied to us about Biden need not be rewarded. Even though we knew just due to his chronological age he was not fit for 4 more years, I did not realize the extent of his incapacity. I feel personally betrayed.

I don’t know if that sense of betrayal will abate by November. That said, I find Harris to be the basic B Democrat and not especially objectionable. Ldahl, please note I am avoiding Charlie Cooke in all things Harris. I really dont want to know the gory details about her if I end up voting for her.

No snark, IL, OK? I have not been paying riveted attention - DH has. I don't have time for riveted attention these days but DH does. He's having a rough time finding work and has taken to keeping the house spotless and cooking meals for myself, himself, and my cousin that I co-own with. So DH is now my news source. I'm so so so lucky sometimes I still don't believe it. Rob

[jp1]

Well, in that case I carried weapons of war while defending bases in Indiana and Alaska during the Vietnam era. Does that make me a combat vet?
Regardless of your approval, I would never imply so.

I’m not in the habit of denigrating vets for their service the way trump is. I suppose in Republican minds my father’s service in Germany during the early 50’s is also ‘lesser’?

[Alan]

I suppose in Republican minds my father’s service in Germany during the early 50’s is also ‘lesser’?

Nope, regardless of how you always group us all together according to your own bias, we are not a stereotype.

Plus, I've not heard of anyone referring to Walz's service, or anyone else's for that matter, as "lesser", did I miss something?

[iris lilies]

No snark, IL, OK? I have not been paying riveted attention - DH has. I don't have time for riveted attention these days but DH does. He's having a rough time finding work and has taken to keeping the house spotless and cooking meals for myself, himself, and my cousin that I co-own with. So DH is now my news source. I'm so so so lucky sometimes I still don't believe it. Rob

That is nice that your DH is keeping house. It’s Great to come home to a clean house and prepared meals when you’re working lots and lots of hours.