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Somehow, someone has given them credit on their Wikipedia page. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AdbustersQuote:
Originally Posted by ApatheticNoMore
And they seem to be seriously promoting it on their website. http://www.adbusters.org/Quote:
Adbusters has launched numerous international campaigns, including Buy Nothing Day, TV Turnoff Week and Occupy Wall Street, and is known for their "subvertisements" that spoof popular advertisements.
I like Adbusters, but this is out of their sweet spot.Quote:
As I understand it the protest was initially organized by Adbusters.
There will always be a 1%. It's a matter of statistics, and there is nothing about having a 1% that implies greed or corruption. It's just spurious jingosim. Be specific about what corruption exists and how you want to fix it. And solutions should apply to all 100% of us.Quote:
"The one thing we all have in common is that We Are The 99% that will no longer tolerate the greed and corruption of the 1%."
I don't think this is really enough to get people out in the street.Quote:
Suggested ideas include: revoking corporate personhood;
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reinstating Glass-Steagall, decoupling commercial from investment banks and insurers, among other provisions to curb speculation;
May be a good idea and is already under discussion in many circles. Again, I don't think this is what people are protesting.Quote:
creating a similar commission for banking to assure for starters too-big-to-fail banks don't exist;
By many measures they already pay more than their fair share.Quote:
making corporations and rich Americans pay their fair share;
Then they ought to make it "Occupy K Street". But would they lose their union backers?Quote:
demanding Obama establish an "American Democracy Reform Commission" to end "monied corruption in Washington;" in other words, get money out of politics;
I don't think the plan should be to pick on the bankers. Politics had as much to do with the financial crisis as finance. And hammering the banks is like swatting the fly on your face with a brick- you need good banking to have a good economy, if you mess up the banking system it is going to hurt everyone.
I do think some reforms are necessary, but it's not the type of thing that people would be interested in protesting on the street. The real issue is how do we as a society stay competitive in a global economy. The credit bubble masked some of our growing problems, and when it burst, as they say, "when the tide goes out you can see who is swimming naked." We should have a public conversation about how we maximize our long term competitiveness and productivity, and it may be fair to look for a way to be sure we take the harsh edges off for those who have problems competing. But have an honest conversation about it, there are not going to be free lunches. The key is fixing the competitiveness issue. If you just try to hand out benefits- jobs, healthcare, education, whatever- without regard to how that affects productivity, all you are going to end up with is Greece writ large.
no more ironic than people who want to shrink government to where they can drown it in a bath tub want SS, Medicare, good roads, libraries, schools, safe food, clean water, fire protection, police protection, armies.......Quote:
Originally Posted by alan
Best, er, Ziggy, did you come visit us in NY this week?
Sign I saw at OWS: WEED NOT GREED
Democracy for everyone, not just the 1%. I'm so glad to see Americans waking up and doing something, and exercising their first amendment rights.
I read where that could be the largest untapped voting bloc (marijuana smokers) in the US - 100 million. I'm hoping to attend Occupy Austin tomorrow - too lazy to fight the Texas/OU traffic today.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dharma Bum
Peace
Since the companies that are at the heart of the complaints are transnationals, as is capital, that Adbusters is Canadian is irrelevant. Wall Street has been the center of international finance for some generations.
Best sign I saw: "Tear down this Wall Street"
My impression is that they're not necessarily protesting capitalism in total (at least not all of them, since it's a large group of individuals, each with their own opinions and ideas), but rather the non-capitalistic aspect of our capitalism where the too big to fail banks and wall street have been bailed out, saving them from that unfortunate part of capitalism called bankruptcy and failure. Hence the 'we're the 99%' phrase. Although in actuality it could/should be "we're the 99.9%"Quote:
Originally Posted by Gregg
This is interesting - in Topeka, KA apparently if you commit domestic battery, or any other misdemeanor you won't be charged - since they don't have the funds to. "Topeka police Capt. Brian Desch said Wednesday that 18 arrests had been made in Topeka in connection with misdemeanor domestic battery since Sept. 8, but all of those taken into custody were released from the Shawnee County Jail after charges weren’t filed." It looks like the county tried to drop the job on the city after budget cuts and the city just doesn't have the money for it. Smaller government at work. Seriously, it must be terrifying for those knowing their attackers will just be released.Quote:
Originally Posted by peggy
http://cjonline.com/news/2011-10-06/...e#.To5a-EAjjxE