Occupy Wall Street PROTESTERS Not Letting Up - Nationwide

[pinkytoe]

Personally, I think it's a wonderful thing that at last a group of people is rising up against the flagrant abuses that are occurring right under our noses. Even if it appears disorganized and nebulous from the outside. It has happened before and will again - when the "little people" get mad enough, energy rises from the bottom to make things happen. Especially when it is the younger generation who inherits the mess. My sense is that these little uprisings will swell to great proportions in the years ahead as our economy and environment declines rapidly.

[Dharma Bum]

I'm not a tea partier, but I agree strongly with their ideas of getting the budget under control. While I may not support the tea party 100%, I think their ideas should be part of the discussion. As for racist signs, from what I have seen in online forums and recent polls Herman Cain is the leading candidtate (e.g. 77% in the recent IL tea party poll).

But for OWS, they need signs all right, but in a Bill Engvall "Here's your sign" kind of way. Don't even know where to start with this, it's just too goofy for discussion:

The American Dream has been stolen from the world. Workers are told that they aren't allowed health care, shelter, food. Students are told that they aren't allowed jobs, and that they will be in debt for the rest of their lives, unable to declare bankruptcy. The 1% has destroyed this nation and its values through their greed. The 1% has stolen this world. We will not allow this to occur.

http://occupywallst.org/

No one has ever told me I wasn't allowed to have food and shelter. They did however mention that if I take money from someone as a loan that yes, egads, I would have to actually pay it back.

[Dharma Bum]

a group of people is rising up against the flagrant abuses that are occurring right under our noses.

Such as? And your plan to fix it?

[Spartana]

They did however mention that if I take money from someone as a loan that yes, egads, I would have to actually pay it back.

What? You mean I can't get a home equity loan for 125% of my homes value, spend it on the luxury car and designer shoes and then - Gasp! - stiff the banlk for the loan when my house value falls or I get downsized from my job? And why all the up roar over govmint bailouts of big corpoations? The same companies many here probably have their retirement funds invested in. I mean is saving some of your 401K and IRA assets a bad thing? Who here has stock in Lehman Brothers? What's it worth now? can you say "Zero"? Didn't doing that keep companies and the jobs that they create intact? All seemed like agood thing for the economy to me. If it was me I would have let them all fail - invest at your own risk!I Protest with your money - if you don't want corporate greed (and I surely don't) then don't invest or buy their products.

[Rogar]

More power to them. As I understand it the protest was initially organized by Adbusters. This is partial list of items they are hoping will be adressed.

Its web site statement said: "The one thing we all have in common is that We Are The 99% that will no longer tolerate the greed and corruption of the 1%." Saying "I am sick and tired of being sick and tired," civil rights activist Fannie Lou Hamer's epitaph said it her way.

Suggested ideas include: revoking corporate personhood;
reinstating Glass-Steagall, decoupling commercial from investment banks and insurers, among other provisions to curb speculation;
imposing a Tobin tax on large financial transactions;
making corporations and rich Americans pay their fair share;
demanding Obama establish an "American Democracy Reform Commission" to end "monied corruption in Washington;"
in other words, get money out of politics; creating a similar commission for banking to assure for starters too-big-to-fail banks don't exist;

They all seem like reasonable items to me, though it seems like others have joined in the protest just on general principals rather than specifics.

[ApatheticNoMore]

The protesters have sent out requests (pleas?) for everything from poster printing to medical assistance to sleeping bags to caterers. I find it fascinating that the people who would provide such goods and services are the very capitalists that the 'occupants' are protesting against. To move beyond the first round volley of discussion on that idea, yes, I will concede that the donations will likely not come directly from the capitalists, but from donors who purchased the goods and services from the capitalists.

So um what? The same goods could be produced by worker cooperatives if the world was so organized. Google Mondragoon and tell me they couldn't. So like I said, so what, if they happen to be produced by capitalist at present.

[Alan]

More power to them. As I understand it the protest was initially organized by Adbusters. This is partial list of items they are hoping will be adressed.....

A Canadian company is organizing protests in the United States in hopes of changing our economic/governmental/societal structures?

[ApatheticNoMore]

They didn't organize it, that is all spin.

[Alan]

So um what? The same goods could be produced by worker cooperatives if the world was so organized. Google Mondragoon and tell me they couldn't. So like I said, so what, if they happen to be produced by capitalist at present.

Don't you find it slightly ironic that the people who want to restrain, if not destroy, capitalism are asking for capitalist support for their venture?

[ApatheticNoMore]

Don't you find it slightly ironic that the people who want to restrain, if not destroy, capitalism are asking for capitalist support for their venture?

No. I think anyone who exists within a system will end up having the majority of the necessities of life produced by that system. I'm sure many who protested communism used goods produced by it, oh they may not have always been the highest quality, but it was THE economic system in those countries.