LGBT rights in the USA today...

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Originally Posted by jp1

So the guy didn’t speak at desantis’ inauguration? Or is it that you think desantis enjoys, and is good at, speaking to the press?

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I have no idea who spoke at the inauguration, if you say someone did and they later said something you find offensive, I believe you. As for public speaking and the press, I get the feeling DeSantis is a little more introverted than the average politician, but I don't find that to be a hindrance to governance and I doubt you would either if he was a Democrat.

That preacher has been offensive since long before he spoke at feds this inauguration. Far more offensive than Jeremiah wright, who republicans were all bent out of shape about. And Obama didn’t invite weight to speak at his inauguration.

The few times I’ve seen desantis speak unscripted to the media he has come across not as introverted but as incredibly thin skinned. I imagine that will become evident to even his most ardent supporters when he hits true debate stage.

Whether or not someone is an introvert has nothing to do with his/her character.

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Originally Posted by JaneV2.0

Whether or not someone is an introvert has nothing to do with his/her character.

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For politicians it is a handicap.

as for the Reverend Jeremiah Wright (who I completely forgot about) geez, JP, don’t you think President Obama had taken the hint of the displeasure of many for his close association with that racist preacher guy, you know, the one who married him and baptize his children, and had enough sense not to bring him along to Washington DC? He left all that in Chicago where it belongs.

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Originally Posted by iris lilies

For politicians it is a handicap. ...

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I agree it can be a handicap. Wasn't Nixon an introvert? At any rate, I won't be running for office any time soon...:~)

Rundown of introverts who were US presidents:https://www.inc.com/john-rampton/are...residents.html

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Originally Posted by jp1

Uganda doesn’t look livable to me. In fact it’s not livable for me now that I am punishable by death. It must be nice to have the luxury of being a cisgender heterosexual male and be able to ignore things like Uganda’s new law.

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Well, then don't move there, and startup a small shop selling TV sets or shoes or furniture. Move to San Francisco, where you'll fit right in, and try and find anything affordable to rent, much less startup a business. That said--start seeing a pattern that leads to success, not to failure. Hope that helps you some.

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Originally Posted by littlebittybobby

Well, then don't move there, and startup a small shop selling TV sets or shoes or furniture. Move to San Francisco, where you'll fit right in, and try and find anything affordable to rent, much less startup a business. That said--start seeing a pattern that leads to success, not to failure. Hope that helps you some.

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I’m living the successful life in the Bay Area thank you very much. Not gonna move to a shithole like southwest mizzoira. Or Uganda. Is there much difference? Hope that helps sum. Thank meeee…

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Originally Posted by iris lilies

i’ve been going down a trans literature rabbit hole and will be reading Julia Serano’s seminal work Whipping Girl. I may or may not report on that.

As for this article, it is easy to shoot the messenger and I don’t intend that, but I think it’s important to understand that Julia Serrano is a trans person and a trans activist, and she makes her living writing about trans issues. She calls herself a “scientist “but she certainly is not a practicing professional in the mental or physical health community.

As an aside, I find these days that calling oneself a “scientist” is intended as a discussion limiting label because if I am a scientist, you may not disagree with any of my assertions which, of course,is not at all the scientific method.

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The tone of this article is reasonable and she makes a couple good points, mainly that more trans people are coming out in society because it is more acceptable. She references the left hand/right hand analogy. She also strongly asserts that backing off from “affirmative care “is actually no care and it is harmful care. I disagree because careful thoughtful therapy is always appropriate yet transactivists consider that “conversion” therapy. Nonsense.

I do like the fact that Julia cites several recent studies from the years 2021, 2022, and 2023 but they do, of course bolster her arguments. And she realistically says that those who disagree with her can go out and find Other studies that will bolster THEIR argument.Her recognition of this adds to the reasonableness of her argument.

It does not mention at all, and this is a major lack, of the co morbidities that many trans youth have. In other words, they have mental illness challenges, autism, etc.

She cites the old chestnut of suicides for trans folks not supported despite those comorbidities, and studies that give context and elsborate and even conflict with that.

The. Umber of detransitioners cannot be measured but there are growing communities of them, oroviding support firvezch other that the LGB?t etc community does not provide.

So yeah, I see this as a well written article from a decided point of view from someone who makes their living promoting a specific point of view about transgender individuals.

In the rabbit hole I’ve gone down, I encountered the Utah legislator, who is a Republican, who is very pro trans for his state, but in reality, he’s really a libertarian. So, it’s not hard to be a libertarian and want the state to stay out of private matters such as specific health treatments.

I also watched a video about Dr. Marci Bowers who is probably the leading trans surgeon in the country, and several things came out of that I found interesting which I may expound on further at another time.

A final thought: my voice to text software writes “trance” instead of “ trans.” Does that mean he/she/they are transphobic since they won’t even use the word?

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I think you would really like Annabel by Kathleen Winter.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dBRJor...BjaGlsZA%3D%3D

This is a video interview with a lesbian mother, who came to the realization that she was actively leading her sons into transgender ism, and who now condemns the movement as a “belief system.” Her tone is reasonable, realistic, and regret for her role during the two years her kids explored their trans identities. Fortunately, no medical treatment took place. They were too young.

https://www.reuters.com/investigates...outh-outcomes/

A good article about why about the overview of “detransitioners” with estimates on that population’s numbers, and commentary on why the lack of studies of anything that might be considered against the transgender ideology is dangerous for researchers. Dr. Debra Soh, sexuality researcher in Canada, has said, that is why she left academia, because there was no freedom to research the topics she wanted to research, they were considered trans phobic.

Rosa, I just read the review on Amazon about the book “Annabel” and it does sound intriguing. I might try that one.